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02-20-2012 , 01:18 AM
20-40 Home Game 10 handed

I get A(c)2(c) in cutoff

MP calls, I call(my first mistake I think, should have raised)
SB calls, BB checks

Flop A24(all diff suits)
Check to me, I bet all call.
Turn Q to make the board A24Q(no flush possible)
All check to me. I bet, SB calls, now BB raises, MP folds and action is to me.

BB is an aggressive player and he could have anything here. He was in BB and didnt pay any extra to see the flop so he can have any two pair or even a flopped straight.

My read on SB is he could have something like 23/34/45.

I am trying to figure out my best play here.
There is $320 in the pot and it costs me $40 to call.

If I call and if BB has a draw like I suspect, then he will probably call as well

Is it better to raise here, in case i am ahead to force SB out.

If I raise and get called, do I just check in case a blank comes. Lets say a 9.
Do I fire again or just check it.
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02-20-2012 , 01:22 AM
3bet and value bet most rivers

welcome to the forum
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02-20-2012 , 01:25 AM
Thanks. I was criticized by a few table caption types after this hand, so want to get a read.
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02-20-2012 , 01:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonr
20-40 Home Game 10 handed

I get A(c)2(c) in cutoff

MP calls, I call(my first mistake I think, should have raised)
SB calls, BB checks

Flop A24(all diff suits)
Check to me, I bet all call.
Turn Q to make the board A24Q(no flush possible)
All check to me. I bet, SB calls, now BB raises, MP folds and action is to me.

BB is an aggressive player and he could have anything here. He was in BB and didnt pay any extra to see the flop so he can have any two pair or even a flopped straight.

My read on SB is he could have something like 23/34/45.

I am trying to figure out my best play here.
There is $320 in the pot and it costs me $40 to call.

If I call and if BB has a draw like I suspect, then he will probably call as well

Is it better to raise here, in case i am ahead to force SB out.

If I raise and get called, do I just check in case a blank comes. Lets say a 9.
Do I fire again or just check it.
Grunch

Vs said oponent I would raise and BC the river. Also preflop yes raising is better than overlimping.

Last edited by nonsimplesimon; 02-20-2012 at 01:48 AM.
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02-20-2012 , 03:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonr
Thanks. I was criticized by a few table caption types after this hand, so want to get a read.
usually table captains aren't very good, so don't worry about it
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02-20-2012 , 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonr
Thanks. I was criticized by a few table caption types after this hand, so want to get a read.



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02-20-2012 , 02:20 PM
sanjay, is that you?
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02-20-2012 , 02:37 PM
new guy?
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02-20-2012 , 03:05 PM
Yea, I raise preflop, but just calling is fine too. It depends MP and the blinds' tendencies.

3bet the turn. BB is probably c/r Ax imo. He has to raise preflop with AQ, right? Possible A4 or 35, but I'm not too worried about it if this guy is aggressive! Home games ftw.
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02-21-2012 , 12:55 AM
Lol, I remember the hand precisely. Easy $120 on turn and fire river.
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02-21-2012 , 01:12 AM
One of the great (or awful, depending on how you look at it) things about 2+2 is that people from the same home game will post on a public forum in order to have a conversation with each other that they could have had in a house or on the phone or whatever.

Not just two home game guys who are like "oh you?" "yeah me" "hey what's up?" "see you next thursday?" but also 2+2ers who nod politely at the table then race to their computers to post stuff like "OMG I met maxxyfive69 at Borgata today and he was really nice" "thanks big_pimpin you were cool too, bummer about that runner-runner against the crazy drunk, huh?" "when you coming to AC next maxxy?" "not sure, b_p, maybe next month" "cool see you then"
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