Originally Posted by jlabruno
LOL I am not asking for me. I am just curious.
Ok so saying that 20/40 would be tough to do for a living for 100k what limit would be? I know most pros play in tournaments. But I am sure a good portion who play poker for a living play cash games instead of tournaments. So what limit or no limit would one need to play to make 100k a year realisticly? And lets assume the person will put in 40 hours a week playing live. And at 40 hours a week live how much can one expect to make a year at 20/40?
Just trying to get a feel on what a person who plays cash games for a living is playing
My playing experience is Los Angeles and Las Vegas.
Vegas is way cheaper to live in and the rake is much less(I believe Bellagio takes $5 per half hour at $20-40). But thats it...Bellagio is the only game in town. And the games aren't as good as they were 3-4 years ago. The older bad regulars will adjust to your playing style...they aren't the same as the horrible Commerce players. The better Bellagio players...will probably beat you.
For Los Angeles, the $20-40 remains an absolute gold mine. If you limited play to M-F 7pm to 3am, you basically will always find a very profitable table. Even at the slowest evenings, I've never seen fewer than 3 tables running. But LA is more expensive. In Las Vegas, a $1500 monthly nut is pretty standard, factoring in rent, car, insurance, and food. In LA, I pay over $1500 in rent alone.
The thing is...I don't know ANYONE who has the $20-40 at Commerce as their sole form of income. There are winning players in the game, but someone else is paying all or part of their rent, or they have money elsewhere, or they play the $40-80 more often than $20-40.
So I guess the thing is really this....are you asking if you can beat the games for a few years(which is possible if you are a good player), or are you asking if you can play for a living...ie, beat the games for $100K a year over several years(which is very unlikely).
Also, you can't make $100K a year at $20-40. Maybe one year you will run hot and be able to do so, but its not a sustainably number IMO. $30-60K with a LOT of hours is a lot more realistic ...If you really are a good player, I'd count on $25-30/hr, not $40. The games beatable for $40, but theres that whole variance thing and not playing optimally all the time and so forth.
Anyway, like everyone else said, if you are beating the $20-40 for that much, theres no reason not to cherry pick tables at the $40-80 as well once you have the BR. Many of the bad $20-40 players go play the $40-80 often enough to make those games very good at times.