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06-29-2015 , 02:43 AM

Maganda's Big Fish

journeyman

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40 game at diamond Lils

EP player limps and it folds to me and I fire 2 out with A

in MP. It folds to BB he 3! -all call-

FLOP: 4

EP player fires and I 2 bet and BB 3! EP folds and hero?

Your feedback is appreciated

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06-29-2015 , 03:41 AM

gobbo

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Are you asking if you should be raising or folding?

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06-29-2015 , 03:52 AM

prototypepariah

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The 20/40 game is called 20, the first number is used to denote what game you're playing in.

Do you have any reads/ranges to put this person in the BB on?

There's no way you should ever fold this hand, it's just a matter of if you'd like more than 2 big bets to go in. I'd be bet/raise/ any non spade A or 10. Call down the rest until given more info.

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06-29-2015 , 06:16 AM

Smarty 2.0

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So BB 3! Pre and then c/3! Cold the flop?

Odd line

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06-29-2015 , 10:00 AM

mongidig

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Originally Posted by prototypepariah

I would still raise a Ts on the turn. I would call if As hit.

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06-29-2015 , 10:36 AM

pgcounty

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Originally Posted by Maganda's Big Fish

Your feedback is appreciated

Reads are important in poker.

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06-29-2015 , 10:39 AM

King_of_NYC

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Originally Posted by Smarty 2.0

So BB 3! Pre and then c/3! Cold the flop?

Odd line

Not really. Everyone experty is super aggro at limit so a c/r to 3! shouldn't be too odd

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06-29-2015 , 10:48 AM

jdr0317

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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC

Not really. Everyone experty is super aggro at limit so a c/r to 3! shouldn't be too odd

It's odd because usually when someone takes a non-standard line (as the PF 3 bettor, they should be betting almost any flop w/ any holding) that is divorced from their autopilot train of thought, they usually are doing so for a reason.

Example: someone three bets pre and donk-checks behind on K73r. Some opponents do it because they love the king, Some do it because they hate the king. Since betting here would be 100% standard, not betting reveals a lot about their possible holding, and it's opponent dependent whether it's a flopped monster or actually a hand fearing a check raise.

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06-29-2015 , 10:57 AM

gaming_mouse

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his line is weird and consistent with bs, easy cd.

i think it would be closer if the action had gone: BB cbets, EP calls, you raise, BB 3b, EP folds, you call.... and depending on reads in that case it's possible i'd find a river a fold.

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06-29-2015 , 11:00 AM

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jdr0317

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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse

I'd say his line is consistent w/ monster starting hand or bs. So I cd and obviously raise if the T pairs.

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06-29-2015 , 02:02 PM

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Maganda's Big Fish

journeyman

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Villian is an extreme LAG. I have played with him a a few times and is capable of showing anything down on the river. This game alone I saw him showing down with 58 suited and he even opened Q2 suited from UTG+1. Trouble is anytime I have a hand I push hard with it and he shows a better hand down.

I called his 3! And thought about raising. Turn brought a 6:diamonds: and I called. River brought a 4:diamonds: and I called again really wanting to raise.
Villian showed down with AK:spades:

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06-30-2015 , 07:43 PM

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steveistheman84

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i'd have delayed until the turn. as played, call down and bet if checked to.

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07-01-2015 , 10:16 AM

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LessLurkMorePost

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Originally Posted by steveistheman84

i'd have delayed until the turn. as played, call down and bet if checked to.

I think delaying until the turn with a 3rd player in the pot is bad idea. We have a chance to face the BB with 2 bets cold here, which is probably something we'd like to do.

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07-01-2015 , 08:21 PM

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steveistheman84

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****. thought it was hu. yeah, pretty easy raise.

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07-03-2015 , 01:32 AM

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Mason Malmuth

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Originally Posted by Maganda's Big Fish

Hi Maganda's Big Fish:

One thing to keep in mind, and I don't know if that's the case here, is that many players who are willing to put in extra bets on an early street with a questionable holding are far less likely to do this on a later street where the bets are now double in size.

Best wishes,
Mason

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07-04-2015 , 06:10 PM

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DjSkyy

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im not sure why you'd do anything but call down here unless u wanna hero fold river if it comes picture picture or unless u wanna raise if you improve.

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