15/30 (9 players dealt in)

BTN: tight player. senior citizen. Makes every move slowly and deliberately. slowest player I've ever seen in limit hold'em. capable of some post flop bluffing and thin value bets.
SB: playing every other hand. limps a lot; raises a lot. very straight forward post flop. Does not bet unless he has at least a pair.
UTG+2 (HERO): tight. Asian. Always the youngest at the table. regulars of the cardroom know me as a regular 6/12 and spread limit player. They prob see me as a breakeven player taking a shot.

Hero is dealt A Q

UTG+1 limps, Hero raises, BTN 3!, SB caps, Hero and BTN calls.

Flop: (13.73 SB) A (?) K Q (?) (3 players)

flop is rainbow and I have a BDFD.

SB bets, Hero calls, BTN raises, SB 3!, Hero shows his cards to his neighbors and snap folds!!

At game speed, I could not think of many hands I can beat despite given 1:10 pot odds to go. pair+straight draw and KQ maybe. I have outs against a flopped straight that may or may not be live. What does MSLHE think?

If they really think you are taking a shot, its more then possible they are pushing you around. I'd at least call down at game speed to make sure they're not messing around and continue to do so until proven otherwise

nice hand. dont show neighbor next time.

I often have problems with tight senior citizens 7 bet bluffing me because they think I'm taking a shot at a bigger limit and may easily be run over

Sorry misread. Thought op typed makes moves, wrote makes moves slowly

Don't be toooo condescending

Shouldn't have mentioned I was taking a shot. The two relevant villains in this hand does not know that.

While BTN is capable of making the rare post flop bluff, he is unlikely to do so in this hand since the action of the entire table revolves around SB playing every other hand.

You under-represented your hand with the initial flop call. In a multiway pot people can often (correctly) overplay their hand if there is a chance to leverage a 3rd player out of the pot. As played on the flop I would definitely be trying to see a showdown.

I think you played it perfectly.

The description of the BTN doesn't match this behavior and also we didn't know whAt BTN was going to do when it was our action.

We should raise the first time around because we have value against SB. If BTN doesn't fold it really narrows his range. Also, more action from the SB after both you and BTN have shown interest in the pot can be respected (vs. his 3b here which may be a spaz-raise).

+1. SB's preflop cap means next to nothing to me based on his description, so I'm raising this flop for value and information on the button. If the button smooths or 3-bets, then I'm cautious.

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Funny, I played a very similar hand at that same table, and I think it might have been against the same two villains. One (V1) was the tighter older guy with the baseball cap and the white beard; the other (V2) was the also-older-but-very-loose guy with the glasses, gray hair and foreign accent.

In my hand, V1 raised from UTG, V2 cold-called from LP, and I called from the BB with KT (possibly suited). Flop came AKT rainbow.

I bet out, V1 raised, and V2 re-raised. I made a mistake here, and just called, as did V1. Turn was a blank, V1 checked, V2 bet again, and I called again (second mistake.) River was a J, V1 bet, V2 raised, and I finally folded, it being obvious that someone had a Q.

As it turned out, both villains were betting aggressively with one pair and the straight draw (AQ and KQ), and I was ahead until the river.

agreed. I'd at least want to see the turn.

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Old man in your post still has AQ/AJ in his range on the flop (he opened); in OP's thread, old man 3 bet preflop: he has like 0 AJ's and maaaaybee an AQ. (In addition to AA-QQ/AK).