Whether or not you like the term "exploit", it sure looks like a player could induce you to make some big errors by calling 1 1/3 bets from the small blind with the right sort of range.

[QUOTE=lawdude;46553877]Whether or not you like the term "exploit",/QUOTE]

its not whether or not I like it, I actually use it all the time, its the massive miss use or misapplication of the term, and similar terms that I don't like.

lol.

I do agree with you that most people probably think that when they are doing it

I know I'm WAY late to the party here and someone may have already pointed this out (if so sorry), but whatever argument that may exist for calling in the SB,--good or bad--it is completely dead in the water with a "good thinking player" in the BB. We NEVER want a guy like that in the pot. Every hand we play here we should be 3betting.

This. I've experimented with coldcalling in the small blind first in after a late position raise. This is how it went:

Phase 1: coldcall with no apparent rhyme or reason.

Phase 2: coldcall with some apparent rhyme or reason.

Phase 3: tighten up significantly when a good player is in the big blind.

Phase 4: abandon coldcalling when a good player is in the big blind.

Phase 5: get a read on the opener before coldcalling in the small blind.

Phase 6: abandon coldcalling without an awesome read on both opponents.

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In the past ~50k hands online and 200 hours live, I've coldcalled in the small blind exactly twice. The first time was online against a guy that spews postflop on the button and I held 97s and there was a very tight player to my left in the big blind. The second time, I misread the action and I thought a guy was raising a really bad limper with a wide range, but he was really open raising. I called with T7s by accident.

So what's that? Once out of 56k hands? Even if it was a good spot with 97s, the ev gained is negligible. Sure, there are other benefits, the most obvious being that the opener might tighten up his open raising range in the future, but those benefits are impossible to quantify and thus are meaningless in the context of analyzing a hand in a vacuum.