Hi

In 2014, I've been using skrill for a while. Later in the year I've signed up for sth like 0.7% rakeback per 10000$+ (minimum), which has been fine for me. Now this amount has been raised to a minimum of 15000$ monthly deposit, which I cannot reach. The same goes for neteller.

Now it seems impossible to change that contract, so that I would benefit from a 10k$ montly deposit (or preferably even from less!). How on earth is online regulation so ****ed up, that affiliates make $ of you by doing whatever you want and you can't even do sth about it? Do I not understand some concepts about e-wallets that apply here?

Any help is highly appreciated.

You're so desperate to make $70 a month that you would trust some ewallet affiliate into talking you into depositing $10k just so you would ring up a bunch of fees for the site he could profit from?

Schemes like this are why some sites now have withdrawal fees.

Only because you allowed someone to make money off your deposits by linking your ewallet account to them. Most people don't have ewallet affiliates, at least ones that kick back.

Some learned the hard way like you did, while others started getting dinged by sites for withdrawing, losing money while an affiliate profited.

I understand your sittuation. That's a very small problem compared to what the guy who runs this network you are in did to sub-affiliate partners, and also to players. He's become highly greedy. There's nothing you can do about it.

Could you explain that a bit more? What problems are you talking about?

Thanks for the answer pokeraddict. I hear what you mean with schemes and all that. - This is also the reason why I never "overdid" anything given the volume I play... but what's all that tagging of affiliates about? Why should it stay that way?

I'm not sure I understand your question but I will answer what I think you're asking.

I suppose you signed up for ewallet rb through this affiliate by using his link. This link is usually for people to place on a website that drives traffic to the ewallet. In exchange, they get paid a referral of x% of revenue produced by you forever.

For ewallets, the amount of money is trivial for most players, but it gives the ewallet exposure where it may otherwise not have any. The reward is paying commission on a player's activity forever.

Your affiliate has decided to violate the spirit of this agreement by offering an under the table deal. This model does not account for this. You feel cheated now that the terms have been changed/breached, but presumably the ewallet never endorsed this agreement you had so they aren't going to go out of their way to help untag you. In other words, this affiliate tricked you into clicking his link so he could make money off you forever and has now decided to make it harder for you to get paid, knowing you will still use the ewallet (I guess, I'm going off what I understand your complaint to be).

Normally, you would have no idea what affiliate you had, if you had one at all. That is because you would not be expecting anything in return.

This is a common scam in rakeback at sites where players are not allowed kickbacks but affiliates offer them illegally. They can simply stop paying and still get paid without any recourse.

I hope that answered your question.

There's not much you can do unfortunately, who was the affiliate anyway?

I don't see why players signing up to these types of deals can't get signed agreements in place (with their master affiliate) to make them legally binding.

Thanks for the answers. Just to clarify one thing: I signed up for that program months after I was using skrill anyway. I thought getting 50$ a month or so was not being greedy at all and not really hurting anybody (regarding 2% deposit fee).

Don't want to namedrop without discussing anything heads-up first :P Justed wanted to know if anyone had similar problems with the decline of the "e-wallets % back -boom".

Replies from an affiliate, presumably the one being discussed in the OP:

I've quoted the relevant portion of the posts and deleted them so as to avoid any promotional issues.

Also, removed some posts at the poster's request, who had this to say to the affiliate after things were explained:

Funny how everyone thinks Skrill rakeback or w/e you want to call it is under the table except for the guy that says "I have 4,000 players" and probably a few others doing same thing.

That sounds familiar.

There's nothing under the table about it. Quite the opposite.

Please explain. The ewallet makes these extra payments on an affiliates behalf?

This is a program endorsed by the ewallet and does not violate terms?

The program and its terms may be openly advertised?

I have a different but similar situation...axelf82 changed my Skrill rakeback out of the blue on me and I can't get rid of him even though I added him after I created my account...I am going to close my current account and create a new account over it at some point if I need to...He couldn't increase my Skrill card ATM limits like a lot of affiliates can either...his Skype message to me...

[Monday, October 06, 2014 2:53 AM] hi, i got really bad news for you. stars/ftp has a new deal with skrill and is now paying nearly no commissions, whats why i can not pay the 0.5% cashback on transfers to stars/ ftp anymore. now i will pay 0.5% or 2/3 of the commissions (if you have only or most stars volume its not profitable for me to pay the 0.5% anymore and i will sent 2/3 of the commissions instead). i will follow the same guidline for transfers to other merchants who pay really low commissions as well (for example betfair).

I actually was super fair to my referals!

the situation was this way:
skrill changed the money i earn from transactions to stars/ftp from one day to another. I now earn a lot less. if i would pay same money as befor i would bleed money away. Thats why i had to adjust the deal. Actually i was more than fair. i payed the old % for one more month giving away money from my own poket.

Moreover this guy has really bad manners he never talked to me about the situation he just made this post out of nowhere.