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Rossen Yordanov (Skrill Head of Referral Business & VIP Acquisition) doesn't tell me the truth Rossen Yordanov (Skrill Head of Referral Business & VIP Acquisition) doesn't tell me the truth

10-02-2014 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
This thread does not exactly speak highly of their business practices, and not for what OP is complaining about.

It encourages the same poaching BS that we went through in the poker industry. And then you have these MB and NT affiliates poaching guys and trying to get their clients to churn 100k a month in deposits to get some miniscule cashback, pushing up the prices for everyone else. Repeat after me, Party Poker Skrill and Neteller withdrawal fees?

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Kahn
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10-02-2014 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
It encourages the same poaching BS that we went through in the poker industry. And then you have these MB and NT affiliates poaching guys and trying to get their clients to churn 100k a month in deposits to get some miniscule cashback, pushing up the prices for everyone else. Repeat after me, Party Poker Skrill and Neteller withdrawal fees?

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Kahn
BOL has Skrill and Neteller withdrawal fees too. This is a terrible business model that does nothing but encourage predatory behavior and force unnecessary costs on to the rooms that pass them on to players. I am surprised the sites tolerate it and it justifies deducting payment processing fees from rev share.

Last edited by John Mehaffey; 10-02-2014 at 06:53 PM.
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10-03-2014 , 06:02 PM
they have told me multiple times in the past month that i can't get retagged. what should i do?
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10-03-2014 , 06:59 PM
I have strange chat log from a guy asking big russian Skrill aff about releasing him from affiliate program in russian, I will post it and then translate cliffs.
[1 октября 2014 г. 23:26] Dima Yegorov:
<<< я спросил можно ли переписывать пользователей и получил категорическое - нет
ты желаешь сотрудничать с мошеником
делай то что считаешь нужным
я комментировать не буду больше ничего— Dima Yegorov, 1 октября 2014 г. 23:26

[0:52:55] xxx: По поводу категорического нет, проверял эту инфу в др источнике- и ты врешь мне
[0:57:18] Dima Yegorov: ок
[0:59:19] Dima Yegorov: я писал пиьсом и получил ответ
[0:59:37] Dima Yegorov: прошу не писать мне всякие гнусности
[0:59:40] Dima Yegorov: спасибо

Dima yegorov is russian skrill aff, he said that he asked skrill and they said that cant release accounts from affiliate programs and also he called Harry(another big Skrill aff http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51...liate-1473962/) scammer.
Im waiting for comments form Skrill and from him about this situation. We all know that this is lie, there was cases when people changed their aff, and we know that Harry is trusted aff, and calling him a scammer is unprofessional.
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10-04-2014 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hubober
I have strange chat log from a guy asking big russian Skrill aff about releasing him from affiliate program in russian, I will post it and then translate cliffs.
[1 октября 2014 г. 23:26] Dima Yegorov:
<<< я спросил можно ли переписывать пользователей и получил категорическое - нет
ты желаешь сотрудничать с мошеником
делай то что считаешь нужным
я комментировать не буду больше ничего— Dima Yegorov, 1 октября 2014 г. 23:26

[0:52:55] xxx: По поводу категорического нет, проверял эту инфу в др источнике- и ты врешь мне
[0:57:18] Dima Yegorov: ок
[0:59:19] Dima Yegorov: я писал пиьсом и получил ответ
[0:59:37] Dima Yegorov: прошу не писать мне всякие гнусности
[0:59:40] Dima Yegorov: спасибо

Dima yegorov is russian skrill aff, he said that he asked skrill and they said that cant release accounts from affiliate programs and also he called Harry(another big Skrill aff http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51...liate-1473962/) scammer.
Im waiting for comments form Skrill and from him about this situation. We all know that this is lie, there was cases when people changed their aff, and we know that Harry is trusted aff, and calling him a scammer is unprofessional.
Harry has helped me in unimaginable ways. I've had so many crummy experiences with both Skrill and Neteller. Sounds like a lot of other people are too. Harry is the one guy that represents the best of both companies - I don't know why they don't just hire him (besides the fact that he wouldn't work for them).
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10-04-2014 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
It encourages the same poaching BS that we went through in the poker industry. And then you have these MB and NT affiliates poaching guys and trying to get their clients to churn 100k a month in deposits to get some miniscule cashback, pushing up the prices for everyone else. Repeat after me, Party Poker Skrill and Neteller withdrawal fees?

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Kahn
I hesitate to even say anything. And I'm not going to get involved in the back and forth so just let my comment stand (or respond - but don't expect a back and forth).

There is something incredibly rich about a poker affiliate (who drives the cost up for a site through rake-back) complaining about other affiliates (e-wallet affiliates). I would be surprised if an I-Poker skin offering 70% rake-back has a bigger problem with "prices being pushed up" with rake-back than cash-back. Especially as cash-back is so minuscule.

As a side bar: regardless of what you think of cash-back, rake-back, or pretty much anything else (opinions you are entitled to and which I simply don't agree but don't deny your point of view) to defend or otherwise accept, justify, or rationalize the Party Poker retroactive 3% fee as anything more than an overt money-grab is delusional. I would remind you they charge even larger spreads on wires. And this fee was applied (on all current balances - retroactively - regardless of the amount deposited by the player) at the same time they did a lot of other really shady things. Which they have since apologized for.

It would be illegal in any other industry. Not even remotely up for debate. Nothing justifies it. If they wanted to do something, they could have changed their policy going forward. Not seized 3% of all player funds, the vast majority of which had no idea what cash-back was. It's called stealing (in English) and nothing justifies it.

There's a large difference between an affiliate who make sure things are right for his customers at personal and financial cost, and one that simply cooks up, plays along or bends over and accepts new schemes with operators to make rake-back and bonuses worth less and harder to decipher. I don't know which one you are (I don't know your background) but I know which one I am. And I'm pretty comfortable with the way I conduct myself, even if I'm a leach and an e-wallet affiliate.
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10-14-2015 , 10:20 AM
Hey guys, what alternative email payment systems do affiliate partnerships? Ideally I would like to charge per sign up.
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