Rakeupdate/Rakereduction Closed August 8th, Players Remain Unpaid - Page 9 - Rakeback and Affiliates

mojo6911 · 08-30-2011, 10:01 PM

Sucks that they are still getting part of my rake.

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21:02:14 : Connected to chat.bodog.eu

21:02:19 : System: Welcome to Bodog. An agent will be with you shortly.

21:02:19 : System: Lester S. has joined this session!

21:02:19 : System: Hi, my name is Lester S. and I will be assisting you today. How may I help you? Please note: your reference number for this chat session is *****.

21:03:03 : mojo: I signed up through an affiliate, Rakeupdate.com and had a rakeback agreement. They have now shutdown and have quit paying out rakeback. I would like to bring this to Bodog's attention so that they will not give them any of my rake.

21:04:10 : Lester S.: Thank your letting us know, can I have your account number or email address to check your account?

21:04:17 : mojo: ******@******.com

21:04:35 : Lester S.: Thank you.

21:05:25 : Lester S.: Since your poker affiliate already closed down, they wont be getting anything from Bodog.

21:05:57 : mojo: I don't believe that is the case, as they are paid directly from Bodog.

21:06:55 : Lester S.: We will be reviewing this concern sir, and thank you for bringing this to our attention.

21:07:26 : mojo: Thanks.

21:07:40 : Lester S.: You are welcome sir.

21:07:45 : Lester S.: What is a good callback number sir.

21:07:55 : Lester S.: So we can give you a call once we verified everything.

21:08:36 : mojo: ***-***-****

21:09:15 : Lester S.: Thank you very much again sir.

Bevo54 · 08-31-2011, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CUPokS

http://grindblog.blogspot.com/2011/0...sson-scam.html

Not sure how factually accurate this account is, but it's probably wise to be skeptical of anyone who has your money and refuses to give any specific answers about when you might see it again...

The person who runs that blog (Degen) is absolutely insane. Search his name on 2+2 and you will see his resume of scams and insanity.

Randy72560 · 08-31-2011, 12:09 PM

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The person who runs that blog (Degen) is absolutely insane. Search his name on 2+2 and you will see his resume of scams and insanity.

Obviously I have no love for the RR/RU owners right now - But Degen is a total nut job that goes off his meds 2-3 times a year and threatens me, the RR/RU owners, the PAS owners, the Pokerstars owners, and the 2+2 Owners. He has even sent us pics of dead bodies- And threatened my kids and my wife's life. So yeah..

Also Mods, the poster who posted the RR/RU owners personal info - I think that should be taken down IMHO - No need for that

Varagh · 08-31-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Firzzzen

People have been killed for saying the wrong words. "Less than one million" is a bit too much lol. Even for $1 people have been robbed and hurt unfortunately.

Anyhow, there can be three scenarios:

a, they are really fixing the problem, developing a new software takes a lot of time. This is what everyone is hoping for.
b, they went bankrupt due to black friday or bad management. This is possible and nothing can be done.
c, the money is stolen by the owners. This is unacceptable and actions should be taken in that case.

Looking at these options, sadly the players are a 1:2 underdog in this situation.

Biju · 08-31-2011, 03:01 PM

Is Niclas Elfstadt still an owner of RR/RU. I read he'd been ousted a while back.

Varagh you offering 66c on the Dollar then?

Snapplehead · 08-31-2011, 03:16 PM

lets band together and get all the info we can

Niclas Elfstedt
http://www.facebook.com/niclasapan

can anyone get daniel persons? or find more info

Snapplehead · 08-31-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Biju

Is Niclas Elfstadt still an owner of RR/RU. I read he'd been ousted a while back.

niclas elfstedt is 1 of the owner
the other owner is daniel person
niclas and daniel was the owner of battlefieldpoker also that owed people millions if you remember

why is anyone shocked to see they owe people money again?

R.R. · 08-31-2011, 03:35 PM

OT: Snapplehead/Degen, please stop spreading lies about R.R. Thanks.

ONT: We finally have an ETA and its mid September, I will post here with an exact date as we get closer.

Biju · 08-31-2011, 03:43 PM

Well that's a start, if true, and I'm prepared to give you the benefit of doubt mainly as it's my only viable option.

How about reaching out a bit further and answering some of the questions in the thread too?

I really do hope you prove my instinct to be wrong here.

**Pokeraddict** · 08-31-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy72560

Also Mods, the poster who posted the RR/RU owners personal info - I think that should be taken down IMHO - No need for that

Done. Do not post people's home addresses in this thread.

Also, these thinly veiled threats are getting old. This thread is to discuss money owed and the status of those payments. The "people have been killed for less" type posts are not welcome here. Have a mature conversation or lurk. A/R is a business forum. It is all about money and business fairness. Obviously there are a lot of problems at Rakereduction right now but the thread needs to stay on topic. Feel free to vent. I know it is a bad situation. Just keep the language on a somewhat professional level.

Links like the Facebook one are OK. Emails, meetings, organizing, business contacts etc are OK but please leave personal details like addresses out of the thread.

R.R. · 08-31-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Biju

Well that's a start, if true, and I'm prepared to give you the benefit of doubt mainly as it's my only viable option.

How about reaching out a bit further and answering some of the questions in the thread too?

I really do hope you prove my instinct to be wrong here.

Let me know what questions you want answered and I will try to answer them right now.

roundr2000blufedme · 08-31-2011, 04:03 PM

Could someone give me the home page for elite affiliate software , thanks

TableFox · 08-31-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TableFox

I just want to know that the rakeback percentage we signed up for with rakeupdate will be honoured, because when you changed software clients; you also lowered certain rakeback percentages and I would like clarification that these will be restored in good faith.

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Originally Posted by R.R.

Let me know what questions you want answered and I will try to answer them right now.

Lets start here shall we.

Biju · 08-31-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by R.R.

Let me know what questions you want answered and I will try to answer them right now.

1. Lots of people couldn't cash out when the site was running as your Options were, FTP, Carbon, Cake & Moneybookers. Why no Cheques or Wire Transfers and what happened with Neteller. Why no redeposit onto Bodog?

2. Why did you unilaterally start paying 30% on Bodog MGR when some had agreements for more, I had 32%?

3. Why aren't you processing payouts that were submitted before EAS Site was taken down?

R.R. · 08-31-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TableFox

Lets start here shall we.

I am not sure what to answer as I dont know what "certain %'s" means.

If you send me a PM with more details I will happily answer it right away.