Oh, he's been back, he just didn't comment or answer anything further. I think the questions got too tough?

So this is linked to player to player transfers and part of being a Sports Book too I guess? I would have thoght it counted as a deposit but I figured there might be a reason from Bodog to discount it.

Right.

And Neteller didnt "drop" us but we stopped using their services for various reasons.

A Bodog affiliate account is basically a player account. Affiliate rev share gets paid to that player account and then the affiliate cashes it out like a player does. It does not have any special features a player account does not have. AFAIK there is not any way to transfer money within Bodog. I have read that their gaming license does not allow for it but I don't know why that is. Even back when Bodog turned a blind eye to rakeback, players still could not get paid there.

..................and the other questions.

when will people start believing that they are not going to pay? Maybe 4 months like FT? Or do you guys need a year before you will believe?

So since Betsson is not paying rakeback directly is it safe to assume that rakereduction is not just having website software issues?

Question 4 isnt answered, i smell poop.

Does it matter if we believe? Its not like we can do anything other than contact Bodog.

so answer some questions-

1- why werent you paying people before eas went down
2- why did you drop neteller - because you didnt have funds to put in there right
3- why dont you just pay everyone what they are owed right now to the place they previously withdraw from?
4- what excuses will you make IF and a BIG IF you reopen and players cashout and you dont pay because you are broke

Scratch that, received the rakeback.

Same here.

Thats the most silly thing that can be done it this situation. Some people are totally mad when they feel ripped.

I don't think waiting two more weeks can hurt us before we try and out them. Personally I believe the money is gone and we won't be repaid in two weeks or two decades. However rr (whoever that is) said two weeks so lets give him it.

Snapplehead I'd hope you can continue in private searching but what good are you doing now? Give them the two weeks and then lets hit them with a broadside if/when they fail to deliver. All you are going to do at the moment is get yourself banned which is good for them.

In the meantime I'd like to see more openess from Rake Update. They started with some flimsy answers and then dissappeared again. RR you are claiming all will be good but have alluded to problems, which I think everyone can understand with Black Friday. People are sick of getting ****ed over and suspect it could be happening again. Why not give us the full story, or as full as possible, with detail of where you are at so we can stop thinking the worst. Obviously if you are scamming us this won't happen or you'll b/s it out, but at least try and convince us you are legit. Your Industry seem to think you are a scammer. I have yet to see one Affiliate or insider say anything positive about you in my research and received PM's, although the one person you have blamed all this on has in several places stated he doesn't think you are a scammer just misguided. Lets see.

If they have just gone bust, well hey **** happens. After the two weeks, I'm all for it, lets find out. If they have scammed us we'll let them have it. Not to physically harm or bs threaten them but to make sure they aren't in an easy position to do it again. To make sure every time they sit in a public game, go shopping, visit the cinema, drop their kids at school - they know they could face ridicule from someone at any point in any day.

If they have scammed us and run off with the money I will not rest, making their life as hard as I can with a few spare hours a day here and there. I will personally put money up if needed to help hunt them down fund lawyers and anything else that legally makes their life harder etc etc. A network of lots of people doing the same and pooling info isn't hard work and can really make a difference. If they see that they could be hounded for the next several years + until we all get bored and their life could be even more miserable than it is now - then they might be a little more willing.

ok biju you make good points

we give them until september 15th then go get them

while that happens, i will find out what we can do

in sweden does anyone know what they have for like tax people? or like police agency we can contact? that would be good research

any swedish people read this can help us out in the right direction so i can get ready


maybe we make a webpage dedicated to all people who have been scammed and start contacted the authorities. 1 person can make noise but 100 people can make much more noise

I don't see any reason to wait.

They haven't explained why they have not paid anybody for a month.
They haven't explained why it will take 2-3 weeks. (If they don't know the problems, how will they ever fix them?)
They haven't explained how they will pay everybody (including the players and sub-affiliates, how are they going to pay whoever they claim in working on their site "round the clock" for 9 weeks?
They haven't even put up a website that would generate money and take in new players (which a 12 year old could do.)
That is very telling: they are not even trying to get new customers.