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Old 03-30-2012, 01:00 PM   #1
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No more rakeback at 888?!

I just got this email from my affiliate:

"Pacific Poker's (888) board of directors and ownership has decided to END ALL RAKEBACK deals effective April 1st. We have tried very hard to negotiate with them to allow all players with existing rakeback deals to keep them. Unfortunately they have decided that no player shall have rakeback anymore on the network.

We regret to inform you that as of April 1st your account on Pacific will no longer receive rakeback. Rakeback for March however will paid as usual so there is nothing to worry about.

Please let us know if you have any questions. Also please let us know if you would like a deal on a different network, or alternatively please contact your affiliate!"

WTF?
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:08 AM   #2
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

Hi Ryan,

888Poker don't have rakeback. Cashback is paid via a VIP system.

Most affiliates will no longer receive player rake stats and I believe some are no longer receiving rev share on new players. Instead they will be paid a CPA.

If you were receiving some money under the table from your affiliate it is likely this will no longer be possible, but I don't think this was ever sanctioned by 888 so I doubt your affiliate has been attempting to negotiate this point with their board of directors.

Maybe your deal was grandfathered, but I never knew these existed at 888?

Interested to hear more,

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Old 03-31-2012, 06:26 AM   #3
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

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Maybe your deal was grandfathered, but I never knew these existed at 888?
Yep these deals have actually all been sanctioned by 888/Pacific from deals going back 3/4/5/6/7 years. But new rakeback has been less prolific in recent years.

In addition the skins on 888 have been offering this stuff for years and right up to recent months before 888 took over most of the brands.

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Old 03-31-2012, 03:30 PM   #4
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

Just to understand here - 888/Pacific allowed players to sign up for rakeback as opposed to other deals that were out there years ago, but then has decided to renege on those deals and no longer allow it, even though the players have held to the terms of the agreement?
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Old 04-01-2012, 12:05 PM   #5
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

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Just to understand here - 888/Pacific allowed players to sign up for rakeback as opposed to other deals that were out there years ago, but then has decided to renege on those deals and no longer allow it, even though the players have held to the terms of the agreement?
Sadly, it appears that way.
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Old 04-01-2012, 03:10 PM   #6
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

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Sadly, it appears that way.
Hey Ryan

I dont understand the last sentence


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"Please let us know if you have any questions. Also please let us know if you would like a deal on a different network, or alternatively please contact your affiliate!"
Who is saying that?

The room cant have written that as they wouldn't offer you a deal on another network...and the affiliate cant have written that as he wouldn't say please contact your affiliate.

Something doesn't add up there...

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Old 04-11-2012, 10:02 AM   #7
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

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Hey Ryan

I dont understand the last sentence



Who is saying that?

The room cant have written that as they wouldn't offer you a deal on another network...and the affiliate cant have written that as he wouldn't say please contact your affiliate.

Something doesn't add up there...

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He said he got the email from his affiliate. They probably were saying they could get him a rakeback deal on another network that has rakeback.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:18 AM   #8
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

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He said he got the email from his affiliate. They probably were saying they could get him a rakeback deal on another network that has rakeback.
Nah, i saw that - it still doesn't stack up...
OP is fine...but aff statement doesnt make sense

OP says
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I just got this email from my affiliate:
And then it says in the text (from the affiliate) at the end
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or alternatively please contact your affiliate!
You see?

No big deal...long forgotten here

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Old 04-16-2012, 01:13 AM   #9
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

Very disappointed, it's like they don't care about their loyal customer base anymore.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:15 PM   #10
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

^^bit dramatic BattleGrind^^ as long as the VIP is good then players arent missing out on much. seems most sites are moving to VIP only now,
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:06 PM   #11
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

So if I would like to sign at 888 right now, should I look for some affiliate to get at least some rake races/etc. or is it indifferent and I can just go to 888 site?
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:22 AM   #12
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

Why would you give up on those? Always better to go with an affiliate.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:34 AM   #13
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Why would you give up on those? Always better to go with an affiliate.
or you get the site to keep all of the rake so they can invest into new fish
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:09 AM   #14
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

For most people on 2+2 who are purely looking at the value they can get back from the poker room, it is always better to sign up with an affiliate.

It's quite rare the value is direct, but even for rooms like 888 affiliates offer some pretty nice extras.

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Old 05-28-2012, 10:21 PM   #15
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Re: No more rakeback at 888?!

Let me know if you find a 888 deal, i lost mine as well few months ago and been looking for another one since but no luck.. They seems to be all gone..
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