Instead of any commentary, I will just post links about a Lock Poker CPA affiliate that got hit with a fine of over $1000 related to a chargeback that was 11x a single CPA. He then got thrown out of the affiliate program when he complained on a forum about it.

http://www.4flush.com/online-poker-n...-continue/9728

http://www.affiliatebible.com/progra...ram-review.php

http://onlinepokerreport.com/lock-po...res-affiliate/

Here is the original thread:

http://www.pokeraffiliatelistings.co...hargeback.html

This whole story is so shady. First they scam him, then the CEO closes his for discussing it on a forum. He tried to contact them directly, everybody knows what a joke Lock's support is, what else was he supposed to do? The part in Lock's T&C about them being able to ban accounts and seize the funds if you talk bad about them in a forum or on twitter, etc. is pretty unbelievable.

Lock, from top to bottom, is a joke site that represents all that's wrong with online poker.

Just so players know, this is the terms that JimAfternoon is referring to, it is term #24 and the bolding is the important part that I highlighted:

http://lockpoker.eu/support/terms/

Wow....

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Kahn

With history like this, 2+2 still let them advertise here?

All about the benjamins

That 4flush article is a good summary of the issues at Lock and those are examples I tell my players and business partners.

The fake 10-20% extra rakeback was particularly damaging, as it lured players in falsely under the pretense that their rakeback would be 10-20% higher than it was, and once you sign a wave of players up in this volatile US facing market, anything short of a disaster can keep them there (largely at least).

The article doesn't even get into the false claims made, like having 40% of the network traffic, or the lack of response when talking about their seemingly outrageous guarantee for Lock Ops (which was subsequently cancelled). They blamed all those things on Merge, now they blame it on a transition. Curious to hear where the blame will go in 2013. Maybe the regulator, or US government, they're running out of blame to pass on to others.

In fairness to Lock it does seem they did have quite a lot of traffic though. Did it not look like something around 40% based on PokerScout's figures?

Of course this doesn't excuse this bad practice, but it seems that they're doing something right to have that level of traffic or do I have my figures wrong?

Jamie

Pokerfuse reported it was 20% I believe, and PAS was reporting 25%.

It's a lot easier to build traffic when you poach players with false numbers, but there is no denying their strong traffic regardless of that. Being dishonest doesn't make you unsuccessful all the time, just ask Ultimate Bet, Full Tilt, KGC and many others.

noone knows if they not make something to rise the traffic ... but i also heard they only had 20% on merge


I stated it before and noone believed me that something going really wrong
there

I really thing the most shady person is Shane Bridges in the whole company... if I read the letter as Jennifer is saying that Greg and Shane was coming to her and pointed out on the thread.... Im 100% sure Shane lied to her as he is always doing.

As i heard Jennifer is not a person who normally kicks out affiliates ( thats what I heard ), so i believe someone made a story up and wanted to have this affiliate removed.

If Shane and Greg would coem to her and say : Look this affiliates got 11x times his cpa deducted because of one player ... i think we made a mistake here and he is now writing in the Forum , im sure she would say, pay him out if the other 10 are fine .....


Yeah thats whats going inside my head, I saw Shane aswell in action, he is a big Liar and is trying to turn all from him ,. hopefully Lock can one day see what a rotten egg they have with him

Perhaps true but it's been well publicized and the CEO could easily have stepped in and fixed it. I don't see any reason to brush off the actions of Jennifer Larson (CEO) or Gerry Polk (affiliate manager - and owner of PokerNewsBoy) even if initially Shane Bridges was mostly to blame. Since the time this story started they've become spectators where this was reported and all went down with not so much a peep.

I have good work ethic imo, but if ever in a situation where my named gets used, me personally I would have had no hesitation to say wait I've been misquoted by my CEO and I tried helping X but it's not my decision.

Joint and several imo, guessing who's fault it probably was doesn't change much and I consider them all crooks now.

i only cant see a reson why a CEO is shooting hisself in the leg

i could be wrong ofc , but as I say i saw Shane in action and he is defo a big liar when it comes to defent lock or mostly hisself

and I said it many times too, he is not made for beeing an affiliate manager as he doesnt know how to handle with people and has not customer skillz


im still waiting till he snows inside and say, im saying this because he refused to work with me ... but at the end im very thankful he made this decision

to Gerry i heard nothing bad before , was spoking to him too long time ago... i guess he is biting in his ass that his reputation is going down aswell lol

Lock Poker decided that they were wrong and will pay all but the 1 player CPA, which would be industry standard.

+infinity

Is the affiliate still booted though?

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Kahn