Hello, as the title suggest i'm looking for a alright site to play on ( not really sure if juicy stakes and winning poker are legit rooms ... ? ) Been playing on bovada for a little while now, just really micro grinding and breaking even so far, any opinions welcome

My personal favorites are Carbon and Aced Poker w/ Bovada as a distant 2nd. Depends what you play though I guess.

Hey gr81,

There are several great US rooms to choose from, and of course everyone has their preferences.

As mentioned above, the likes of Aced & Carbon are popular choices, with players getting up to 35% Cashback in the Points Rewards Scheme. There is also a 1st Deposit Bonus of up to $5000.

Another solid choice would be the Winning Network, with flagship skins America's Card Room or Black Chip Poker. Here players enjoy 27% Rakeback, as well as a 100% 1st Deposit Bonus of up to $1000.

The best thing to do, would be to fill out this Rakeback Request Form and see what advice the affiliates on here can offer.

Hope that helps!
Ryan

With all other things being equal, what is more beneficial to a player, the between 10% and 35% cashback from Carbon & Aced or the 27% rakeback from America's Card Room?

Is the rakeback on America's CR always a flat 27% (or does it fluctuate like the cashback from the merge sites?)


It would be a difficult for me to get into Carbon's top tier to get the 35% cashback. I would more than likely fall into their 15% cashback tier which leads me to believe that I might be better off going with Americas CR and getting the 27% rakeback?

not sure if I am understanding/thinking about this correctly... any clarification is much appreciated. thanks.

Hey AlmostGood,

Yes, ACR Rakeback is a flat 27%, paid weekly.

As far as I'm aware, the Top Tier (35%) on Carbon and Aced is invite only.

ACR is a solid choice because the room is fully owned by the Winning Network, so you can be sure it's safe and reliable.

Not to say Carbon and Aced are not of course! Everyone has different preferences.

As I mentioned before, affiliates also offer value over and above the deals themselves, so please fill in the Rakeback Request Form and you will receive advice on the best deals from each affiliate.

Hope that clears it up
Ryan

Yes. Thanks!

Thank you too! I appreciate everyones advice here. PokerVIP, i assume all these sites are safe, and pretty reputable, i am from the usa so i understand beggers can't be choosers, i remember americas cardroom from back in the day, years ago, it has been around awhile. I guess i should check out all these sites and see which has the best skin(s) and feels to it. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction guys, i like bovada but its very tough it seems to get ahead of the game with no rakeback, limited point value and rare reload bonuses.

oops wanted to add an edit here, I tried clicking on the rakeback request link, but it said i don't permission to view... I'm guessing its because i'm a new member, any help is appreciated with figuring this out, thank you guys.

sealswithclubs can get a lot of rb... they have 50% table starter

The ACR back in the day is basically the same people it is now. ACR back then was owned by Betcris and used Dobrosoft. Now it uses a more advanced Dobro platform and is owned by Bookmaker, the US=facing Betcris spinoff. The only site I would suggest avoiding is Lock Poker.

Appreciate the help poker addict but it seems like ACR has less traffic, and isnt black chip better overall?

ACR and Black Chip are the exact same site with same cashiers. The only US site with more traffic is Bovada.

Acr just began rakeback daily a little while ago. Think it resets at 12am est and is available next morning.

WPN has 27% flat rakeback paid daily but you have to release it manually through the rewards tab in the software client, that was changed about 2 months ago. Another selling point is the fact they will get rid of the extra rake on their Beast Tables as of April 6th, as this previously put off a lot of players.

You can fix that problem by reading this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51...cement181.html



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Kahn

I grind on bovada also and I have really wanted legit rakeback on there for a while. The only way I get something back from bovada is to save up the 200-500 points i earn each week and buy into the $5000pts freeroll 200points(2$ worth of points) buyin qualifier which normally pay top 30-100% of players who reg daily at night and win seats to that. Normally in the actual $5000 pts freeroll each entry is worth about $15 and first is about 650ish and top 50 to 100 make at least $20 out of 250-450 players so normally about 20% of the field is paid. 2nd is 550ish 3rd 450ish 4th 370ish. I normally cash this every other week with a nice payday of a few hundred dollars at least once every 2 months.
Def the best way to maximize your rakeback on bovada that I know of and believe me I have been looking into this for a while.

Hey Suitedandzooted,

I believe you have maxmised your returns as much as you can by doing this on Bovada. Have you considered playing at another room where the returns are higher?

I would recommend you send off a rakeback request form to see what else is out there.

Hope that helps,

Tom

Is the rakeback on ACR done by ACR? Meaning you don't have to sign up through a 3rd party rakeback service?

You should sign up through a rakeback affiliate to guarantee not having to ask their support for it. It will make life easier. It is paid by ACR directly to your player account.

Wow that is cool THANK YOU!!

I currently live in NJ where the Atlantic City casinos (among a few others) have opened up online poker. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any rake back on these sites...

Can I live anywhere in the US and play on Bovada or American? Even though I live in NJ, am I better off playing on these networks? I've been playing on Borgata which users PartyPoker software..

Looking to get back into online playing so any advice is appreciated!

Hey RomeWashington,

Have you tried playing on Blackchip Poker or Americas Cardroom? Value at these rooms is much higher than most US facing rooms. At these rooms returns can be as high at 47% + promotions.

I would suggest you check them out, as there is some great value to be had.

Just my two cents though ;-)

Hope that helps,

Tom

I live in NJ too and I haven't played on the NJ sites yet because everyone tells me they are still worse than bovada and offer little to no incentives. Bovada has its fair share of issues but payouts are very very quick of late and they require little to no proof of ID/address which I hear is a big prob with the NJ sites. Seems like the NJ sites have way more probs. I would rec'd reading the last few pages of the official bovada thread to get a feel for dc probs that have been occurring lately. I'm a winning player on bovada.

When you only have a small handful of sites to play on, trying to use rakeback alone as the deciding factor just isn't going to get you good results. This is really where you should be doing your US-facing site research and asking questions:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...pdate-1238038/