OMG

what a cnut

It appears to be damn easy to get a "loan" from people on the internet these days. All you need is a fake facebook profile.

except it was not fake...

This guy is sending me messages from time to time on MSN to transfer him some money.



2 Month ago we had very long conversation about him moving through me as affiliate, but asked for xx euro player transfer, when i said that i will need to check his 2+2 account first, he start acting like a kid and saying how is possible to not trust him after provideing facebook account. He had like 10 posts and i refused to make the transfer and he told me he will play through someone else.

21.6.2010 г. 19:34:51 ч. Golden Rake Mihov so I was hoping you maybe had like €50 on MB so I could cash out today, and start up tomorrow
21.6.2010 г. 19:35:14 ч. Mihov Golden Rake Can i have your 2+2 nick?
21.6.2010 г. 19:35:27 ч. Golden Rake Mihov and I'll throw you a stake this sunday
21.6.2010 г. 19:35:48 ч. Golden Rake Mihov my 2+2 nick is solidoc
21.6.2010 г. 19:36:14 ч. Mihov Golden Rake ok one sec
21.6.2010 г. 19:36:34 ч. Golden Rake Mihov it is not a big deal.. I can do the banktransfer and do i myself, but then I will not be able to start up before next week
21.6.2010 г. 19:36:49 ч. Mihov Golden Rake I can do it, just want to check your 2+2
21.6.2010 г. 19:36:57 ч. Golden Rake Mihov just a question : ) I am man enough for a big fat NO
21.6.2010 г. 19:37:18 ч. Golden Rake Mihov ok ok...
21.6.2010 г. 19:37:40 ч. Golden Rake Mihov Long time lurker, but first time poster =)
21.6.2010 г. 19:38:03 ч. Mihov Golden Rake Can't find your 2+2 account
21.6.2010 г. 19:38:06 ч. Golden Rake Mihov would maybe be easier for you if you accept me on facebook, so you can see who I am =)
21.6.2010 г. 19:38:46 ч. Golden Rake Mihov Welcome, solidoc. You last visited: Today at 07:29 AM
21.6.2010 г. 19:38:53 ч. Golden Rake Mihov solidoc is my name on 2+2
21.6.2010 г. 19:40:49 ч. Mihov Golden Rake Can't find your post in the ******** ******t thread
21.6.2010 г. 19:41:05 ч. Mihov Golden Rake I just want to check it, because have bad expirience with such things
21.6.2010 г. 19:41:09 ч. Golden Rake Mihov it was removed by a mod because I posted my msn
21.6.2010 г. 19:41:18 ч. Golden Rake Mihov 2sec
21.6.2010 г. 19:41:49 ч. Golden Rake Mihov PM to silver18 sent
21.6.2010 г. 19:42:10 ч. Golden Rake Mihov why do you want me to do that btw? =)
21.6.2010 г. 19:42:43 ч. Mihov Golden Rake where you want to deposit?
21.6.2010 г. 19:42:44 ч. Mihov Golden Rake svenska ?
21.6.2010 г. 19:43:11 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I am gonna put €5k on *********************poker
21.6.2010 г. 19:43:20 ч. Golden Rake Mihov via MB
21.6.2010 г. 19:43:25 ч. Mihov Golden Rake you want to withdraw, but first want to deposit random amount
21.6.2010 г. 19:43:27 ч. Mihov Golden Rake to which site?
21.6.2010 г. 19:43:31 ч. Golden Rake Mihov ahh
21.6.2010 г. 19:43:49 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I have 6k on 5050poker, and 8,5k on dailypoker
21.6.2010 г. 19:46:07 ч. Golden Rake Mihov if its very stressfull for you, you dont have too m8..
21.6.2010 г. 19:46:10 ч. Golden Rake Mihov just a question...
21.6.2010 г. 19:46:51 ч. Golden Rake Mihov but since you r my new affiliate and will make some good money on me, I feel I am entitled to ask you =)
21.6.2010 г. 19:48:22 ч. Mihov Golden Rake its ok to make this transfer, but i just dont know you
21.6.2010 г. 19:48:26 ч. Mihov Golden Rake you dont have any posts in 2+2
21.6.2010 г. 19:50:15 ч. Golden Rake Mihov thats why I wanted to add you on facebook..
21.6.2010 г. 19:50:23 ч. Golden Rake Mihov so you can see who I am
21.6.2010 г. 19:50:32 ч. Golden Rake Mihov list of my closest friends and family
21.6.2010 г. 19:51:49 ч. Golden Rake Mihov do you really think I am gonna scam you after giving you access you my whole life? lol... I just need some help moving my BR to YOUR site..
21.6.2010 г. 19:51:55 ч. Golden Rake Mihov but ok.. I'll find another way
21.6.2010 г. 19:52:22 ч. Mihov Golden Rake Don't want to insult you or anything like this
21.6.2010 г. 19:52:33 ч. Mihov Golden Rake I just have too big expirience with this
21.6.2010 г. 19:52:36 ч. Mihov Golden Rake and bad.
21.6.2010 г. 19:53:35 ч. Golden Rake Mihov do you REALLY think I am gonna scam you for €50? Putting s much work into scamming you for €50? I would never ever given you my facebook if I was suppose to scam you... lol
21.6.2010 г. 19:54:19 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I hardly dont know anyone playing online poker... just the friends of mine that I stake, but they dont have money online..
21.6.2010 г. 19:54:34 ч. Golden Rake Mihov And after the new law I need help with small things like this..
21.6.2010 г. 19:54:53 ч. Golden Rake Mihov but, np np... I'll find another way =)
21.6.2010 г. 19:55:07 ч. Mihov Golden Rake ok
21.6.2010 г. 19:56:05 ч. Golden Rake Mihov if you see on my facebook page, I became a dad 8 weeks ago... it is my daughter in my pic here on MSN. I am no f***** scammer
21.6.2010 г. 19:56:16 ч. Golden Rake Mihov just need a helping hand moving my BR
21.6.2010 г. 19:57:05 ч. Mihov Golden Rake nothing personal, just sound a little bit suspicious to me
21.6.2010 г. 19:57:25 ч. Golden Rake Mihov www.donkr.com <--- read about the new norwegian law
21.6.2010 г. 19:57:25 ч. Mihov Golden Rake this is the reason why i dont want to make the transfer
21.6.2010 г. 19:57:34 ч. Mihov Golden Rake yea i know about it
21.6.2010 г. 19:57:54 ч. Golden Rake Mihov my ONLY option is banktransfer.. 3-5 days
21.6.2010 г. 19:58:05 ч. Mihov Golden Rake the banktransfer is usualy faster when you deposit
21.6.2010 г. 20:02:22 ч. Mihov Golden Rake I'm going out for dinner
21.6.2010 г. 20:02:31 ч. Mihov Golden Rake msg me if there is anything
21.6.2010 г. 20:02:42 ч. Mihov Golden Rake if you can give me any references in 2+2 from reputable members we will be able to make the transfer

There is more, but will skip it.


22.6.2010 г. 17:02:40 ч. Mihov Golden Rake Hello
22.6.2010 г. 17:03:39 ч. Golden Rake Mihov hi
22.6.2010 г. 17:05:00 ч. Mihov Golden Rake whats up
22.6.2010 г. 17:05:30 ч. Golden Rake Mihov not much
22.6.2010 г. 17:05:41 ч. Mihov Golden Rake what happen yesterday
22.6.2010 г. 17:06:06 ч. Golden Rake Mihov you insulted me and called me a scammer... nothing else
22.6.2010 г. 17:06:20 ч. Mihov Golden Rake its nothing personal, you should understand it
22.6.2010 г. 17:06:28 ч. Mihov Golden Rake this is just my general approach when i meet someone who i dont know
22.6.2010 г. 17:06:31 ч. Golden Rake Mihov why r you contacting me now?
22.6.2010 г. 17:06:56 ч. Mihov Golden Rake just wanted to see if we're ok
22.6.2010 г. 17:07:05 ч. Mihov Golden Rake you told me that you're man enough for "FAT no
22.6.2010 г. 17:07:06 ч. Mihov Golden Rake "
22.6.2010 г. 17:07:07 ч. Mihov Golden Rake right ?
22.6.2010 г. 17:07:59 ч. Golden Rake Mihov but then you proceeded to say I was shady, scammer, all I said was bull**** etc
22.6.2010 г. 17:08:15 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I dont want an affaliate than just think about himself
22.6.2010 г. 17:08:24 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I have been playing poker for allmost 6 years now
22.6.2010 г. 17:08:43 ч. Mihov Golden Rake Iám not a person who think just for himself, just think how suspicious this looks
22.6.2010 г. 17:08:53 ч. Mihov Golden Rake you're lurking 4 years in 2+2 without to post single hand
22.6.2010 г. 17:09:01 ч. Mihov Golden Rake there is nothing about your screen names in google
22.6.2010 г. 17:09:06 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I post on www.donkr.com
22.6.2010 г. 17:09:16 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I read once in a while on 2+2
22.6.2010 г. 17:09:41 ч. Mihov Golden Rake Ok, sorry if you feel like i insulted you
22.6.2010 г. 17:09:53 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I am _NOT_ playing on pokerstars/FTP, but small networsk as entraction and MG
22.6.2010 г. 17:10:05 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I am done arguing with you m8
22.6.2010 г. 17:10:20 ч. Mihov Golden Rake It's ok
22.6.2010 г. 17:10:23 ч. Mihov Golden Rake just wanted to make it clear
22.6.2010 г. 17:10:31 ч. Mihov Golden Rake I play in small networks too
22.6.2010 г. 17:10:37 ч. Mihov Golden Rake ongame, prima, 888
22.6.2010 г. 17:10:55 ч. Mihov Golden Rake don't know if you consider as normal to ask someone who you dont know for 50 euros and to receive them
22.6.2010 г. 17:11:02 ч. Mihov Golden Rake especialy when i dont know you
22.6.2010 г. 17:11:16 ч. Mihov Golden Rake bye and good luck with life and poker
22.6.2010 г. 17:12:28 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I have never ever asked strangers for money before - but after the new law here in Norway - moving money around is very difficult

22.6.2010 г. 17:14:04 ч. Golden Rake Mihov and no way in hell I will go through all this trouble + adding you on facebook (showing you my entire life) to scam you for €50... lol
22.6.2010 г. 17:14:20 ч. Mihov Golden Rake I don't have any expirience with facebook really
22.6.2010 г. 17:14:24 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I do _not_ expect anyone to send me money - infact, I understand you
22.6.2010 г. 17:14:36 ч. Mihov Golden Rake This is why i asked about your 2+2 nickname
22.6.2010 г. 17:14:48 ч. Mihov Golden Rake because i post there and i know who is trusted
22.6.2010 г. 17:15:03 ч. Golden Rake Mihov but after I added you on facebook, I kinda hoped you understod that I was legit - Do you know how much damage you can do to me at facebook?
22.6.2010 г. 17:15:14 ч. Mihov Golden Rake No idea really
22.6.2010 г. 17:15:19 ч. Mihov Golden Rake Not here to make any damage to anyone ;]
22.6.2010 г. 17:15:34 ч. Golden Rake Mihov So am I - I am NO scammer what so ever
22.6.2010 г. 17:15:47 ч. Golden Rake Mihov I am just a little bit frustrated about the whole thing
22.6.2010 г. 17:15:52 ч. Golden Rake Mihov sry for that
22.6.2010 г. 17:15:55 ч. Mihov Golden Rake np
22.6.2010 г. 17:15:56 ч. Mihov Golden Rake case closed ;]
22.6.2010 г. 17:16:18 ч. Mihov Golden Rake going to watch some vids from dc now
22.6.2010 г. 17:16:18 ч. Mihov Golden Rake bye
22.6.2010 г. 17:16:25 ч. Golden Rake Mihov bye




22.6.2010 г. 18:14:31 ч. Knut Mihov you there?
22.6.2010 г. 18:14:38 ч. Mihov Knut ye
22.6.2010 г. 18:14:38 ч. Mihov Knut sup
22.6.2010 г. 18:15:37 ч. Knut Mihov a "friend" sent me €11 on MB, so I only need €39 now to cash out from 5050 - You can still help me if you wanna
22.6.2010 г. 18:16:26 ч. Mihov Knut No, i don't want to make transfers after the whole story, sorry
22.6.2010 г. 18:16:42 ч. Knut Mihov hehe, ok ok...
22.6.2010 г. 18:17:05 ч. Knut Mihov I was ready to start playing for you btw - but you obv thinks that I am a scammer or something
22.6.2010 г. 18:18:09 ч. Mihov Knut I can't say that you're a scammer or not, i need time to build trust in someone
22.6.2010 г. 18:18:19 ч. Mihov Knut and i can't find any connection between these two things
22.6.2010 г. 18:19:25 ч. Knut Mihov ok
22.6.2010 г. 18:19:37 ч. Knut Mihov I am sorry to hear that m8
22.6.2010 г. 18:19:41 ч. Knut Mihov gl
22.6.2010 г. 18:21:53 ч. Mihov Knut ty u2



5.8.2010 г. 02:21:31 ч. Knut Mihov hello sir
5.8.2010 г. 02:21:38 ч. Mihov Knut hello
5.8.2010 г. 02:21:43 ч. Mihov Knut how is going
5.8.2010 г. 02:22:01 ч. Knut Mihov doing good
5.8.2010 г. 02:22:33 ч. Mihov Knut glad to hear
5.8.2010 г. 02:31:33 ч. Mihov Knut any particular reason to msg me or just to check how iam
5.8.2010 г. 02:31:33 ч. Mihov Knut ?
5.8.2010 г. 02:31:38 ч. Mihov Knut ;]
5.8.2010 г. 02:31:57 ч. Knut Mihov lol, sry... little busy with my kid here atm =)
5.8.2010 г. 02:32:02 ч. Mihov Knut ok
5.8.2010 г. 02:32:40 ч. Knut Mihov I asked you erlier if you could help me moving some money, and you said no - which is ok - I kinda need help again. I only need €30 on MB to be able to withdraw.
5.8.2010 г. 02:32:55 ч. Knut Mihov I will be honest with you and say that I will not sign up under you
5.8.2010 г. 02:33:19 ч. Knut Mihov but I remember adding you on facebook, and I hope you see that I am not a scammer. I just need some help
5.8.2010 г. 02:33:40 ч. Mihov Knut thanks for beign honest, but there is no reason to risk
5.8.2010 г. 02:33:51 ч. Mihov Knut 30 euro and send to unknown
5.8.2010 г. 02:34:05 ч. Knut Mihov yeah, I kinda see that
5.8.2010 г. 02:34:19 ч. Mihov Knut bye and good luck



21.8.2010 г. 17:47:26 ч. Knut Mihov Hi, do you have the opportunity to trade €150 from Neteller to MB?
21.8.2010 г. 17:47:28 ч. Knut Mihov I'll send first
21.8.2010 г. 17:47:35 ч. Mihov Knut hi
21.8.2010 г. 17:47:37 ч. Mihov Knut i dont use neteler
21.8.2010 г. 17:47:42 ч. Knut Mihov ok
21.8.2010 г. 17:47:42 ч. Mihov Knut neteller*

Thanks for posting silver18.

It's very annoying that he continues to do this even as late as 21st of this month, after I have contacted his brother and after promising to start paying back!

Np. I hope you will receive your money.

So who all is still owed money?

I've heard that Knut has told at least one person that he won't repay until this thread is deleted. Sorry, we don't give in to terrorists.

But really, that is a foolish request for a couple of reasons. First of all, that's not in the control of any poster here, and I'm certainly not going to delete a thread just because someone won't pay back money they owe to one person if they don't.

Secondly, we've had many threads, especially in the Marketplace, where things like this go very, very badly for the alleged scammer. It usually doesn't take the 2+2 sleuths long before they start tracking down all sorts of personal information.

I for one would love to see this thread moved and the hounds released.

If the Marketplace gets more viewers I think it should be moved there since my intentions were to warn other people about this guy.

The sad thing about this is that his family might get a bad reputation because they have such a unique last name.

I did NOT scam JimmyRare!
The reason that I have been a little bit late paying others is because my RK account is currently blocked (which I think Jimmy managed to do)

The situation with Jimmy is little bit complicated (please read my previous post why it has been complicated)
I have wanted to pay Jimmy back for a long time, but he has declined my 3 (THREE) attempts to do so. He wanted to use a "debt collection company" instead (lol). He declined all my attempts to pay him back. Using a debt collecting company takes many weeks, and in the middle of the process with the company, Jimmy was stupid enough to start this thread and started to insult my family.

From my point of view, that was not very smart.

The only thing that stands in the way for me paying Jimmy is this thread. A few days ago we made a deal: That I would send Jimmy an amount. He would then delete this thread or at least block out my name from this thread and I would start paying. The debt would be paid in full within 30 days or else he could start the thread back up again.
But suddenly Jimmy changed his mind. Even if I pay he said can't promise that this thread will be deleted - He really don't care.

Jimmy has crossed the line in so many ways that I actually think he don't care so much about his money. But he rather wanna start a war with me. Maybe his life is too boring - I really don't know. Which leads me to think that he don't even wanna try deleting this thread after he receives his money.

I have tried my best solving this, but it is extremely difficult to talk with him.

and your point is?

My point is that you tried to scam me, then you needed a trade - i just post both.

Or maybe he tried to build some trustworthy between you and him and later ask you for 2nd transaction but this time you send first ?

oh. didn't you hear?

I say again that my own experience was that he explained his situation to me, he asked for me to advance him some funds, I did and he is returning the funds, as agreed.

Maybe there is more to it with the situation with Jimmyrare

Again, I can only speak from personal experience but I am confident that anybody due anything back will get it.

After he declined my attempts to pay him back I warned him about any more trashtalk of me in public. He said he was sorry for the facebook-stunt and promised to not do anything else as longest the debt was paid - But I guess Jimmy did not knew how much time a "debt company" use to claim the debts.

So in the middle of the process he went on a rampage to try **** my life up!

Again, I did not scam him. I have tried my best to solve this. But Jimmy thinks he can do as he wish.

I have Never Ever refused to pay Jimmy Engstrøm. Jimmy Engstrøm refused to be paid.

And he must feel very proud, like a huge baller for having my account at RK freezed with over €7 eur in it..

Why didn`t you just paid him ignoring that hes "refusing" lol
Really strange

Because I than had to pay the double amount. Do you think the "debt company" just would go away?

AND because of the stupid way Jimmy has behaved. Going around trashtalking me all over. I asked him to stop when I dealt with the company. But when it was time to pay he had already damaged me good.

For me (and probably for most of the readers here) you are a true scamer!
And this poor methods you are using ... we are not so stupid, don`t you think?
2 users who have just registered to come here and say you have givven them back the monies ? hah =)

Give him back the money before you get real big troubles
This is not a joke, with 4k eu ppl in my Country are working 1 year to make it!

This is my LAST and FINAL post in this thread and I will not open it up again. It is now all up to Jimmy!

gl

There are several flaws in Knut's posts obviously.

1. I have never "refused" to get my money back, I think most sane people understand this.
2. The "debt company"(inkasso) will write the debt off as soon as Knut has paid, through me OR through them. This I have told Knut. Of course there is no "double" payment.
3. This thread does not hinder Knut from paying me back, how could it?
4. What line did I cross!? Knut owe ME money, not the opposite.
5. I have nothing to do with this "RK" account that Knut speak of.
6. I know that Knut has deposited over €6k at 24h poker AFTER you borrowed money from me.
7. There are proofs itt that Knut are a scammer.
8. I don't control this thread!
9. I did not **** up Knut's life, Knut brought this upon himself.

1. Yes you did, please post the chatlogs where you declined my attempts to pay you back. You declined twice. And once a couple days later.
2. You clearly said "it was NOT your business any more, take it with the company" - again, please post your logs
3. Yes it does. You promised to not do anything more stupid while I was waiting for the bill. You promised. And I clearly stated that if you did, you would not receive a single cent.
4. nr.3 + posting crap on my FB while there was 24h left of the "deadline" + this thread + you had your friends posting in this thread with false stuff to back you up ++++
5. You are mentally unstable. That is for sure. Huge ups and downs. And you said you would contact any site I had money on bla bla bla. (please take a look in your logs again)
6. Yes, and? Do you know how much I cashed out?
7. I owe one guy €50 and another €350. That is correct. I am not a scammer. I was out looking for a new deal and I also needed help moving funds.
8. ofc you don't but you promised me to have it deleted. And then you suddenly turned around trashtalking me even more. Who trashtalk a person that owes him money?
9. You are kinda correct, but you made a HUGE mess out of this easy situation. If you had just kept your mouth shut and sticked to the deal we first had, nothing of this would have happened.

Knut, is it the case that you are asking everyone you owe money to to post something good about you in this thread before you pay?

Knut, did this guy you scammed in april get paid back?

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