Hello,

Just wanted to warn the poker community about someone that scammed me to the tune of $94,000.

He was my sub affiliate on a Revolution Skin called Adam and Eve Poker. Yes, I understand they are going thru their own situation right now but this has nothing to do with it. He scammed me separately, I am also owed from Adam and Eve.

Here is some basic information I have on him:

1st name: Arnie
Skype Name: rakeback-grinder
2+2 Name: Daimian
He said he lives in Malta but that could be a lie.

After I sent him Moneybookers to send someone a bank wire he said his bank account got seized for back taxes. He did a bunch of other decent sized trades for me like this so thought it wouldn't be a problem. After that whole situation he was still keeping in touch and we set up a repayment plan. He didn't come thru on his 1st payment and I gave him some more time but now he just disappeared and isn't responding to anything.

If anyone has any further information on him that would be great!

Is this the same Arnie that supposedly can get affiliates greater deals at sites than they can get on their own?

If it was the same guy, strange how he'd be a sub-aff... it was my understanding he was an affiliate recruiter...?


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Kahn

Sorry, I meant to say I was under him as an affiliate. Yes, this is the same guy. I wouldn't do any business with him!!!!

I have him on Skype and have talked plenty of times. Never really understood whether he was pretending to be a baller or really was.

Anywhom, I can likely help you to dig up some details, if you don't even have his real 1st name.

Has he been on lately? I think he blocked me. Yea, if you could get some further info on him that would be great.

I never did business with him and I've lost the years old skype conversations but... I'm almost certain he used to tell me while giving me his pitches that it was not an affiliate/subaffiliate deal. That he had just negotiated good rates and would not own the clients or the subaff if he set you up. I presumed that meant he got some flat fee or hybridized reward system.


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Kahn

Wow, I never knew that Ammo and Arnie is the same person on Skype...

Another thing I noticed is that he was constantly selling his affiliate accounts with sub affiliates. Not that I have any proof, but that was also likely a ponzi scheme of some sort...

It varied. Sometimes he offered people deals where it was under his own account (control), other times he offered people deals where he just referred them to a poker room manager and the manager and affiliate took the relationship from there (and the manager would kick him back a few % for the referral).

I had a few deals back in the day with him under that latter format (hey, an affiliate manager will give you x deal on a site, here is his skype/email, you can deal with him on it).

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Asking around before you loan someone serious money is a good idea in this industry, no matter how nice a guy seems to be.

Anyone know of ties to these accounts?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/364869/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/362120/

Thank you very much for the in-depth information vule2323. Hope this helps others from getting scammed!!! I noticed on his Skype picture you have a screenshot of it says location: Pensacola, Florida. He visits the US sometimes that you know of??

I have reason to believe both of these accounts are him. I would be willing to wager money on it.

This thread is a great example of the affiliate community helping each other when there is a major issue.

Just chiming in to say that I personally got scammed from him 2 years ago (he shaved off percentage from me when I played under a deal of his), and he scammed my friend/current affiliate too.

Also, months ago (if not a year or so), there was a thread made about him scamming someone, and I chimed in, like I did here, to say he was not reputable. He defended himself poorly, and the thread actually got locked from what I remember.

To find out he still is capable of running his scam a year after that thread, and 2 years after he scammed me shows poor information sharing in this community.

I met him couple of years back in malta and if u have some common sense u will realize teh first couple of minutes that hes not really teh kind of person to make business with... however it's prolly a bit harder to spot if u only know him online. I know that he moved to turkey after malta and got married, no clue what happend after that.

Oxford degree made me laugh out loud very hard though...

Gl

Just read this thread and he scammed me also but very small amount when read what from others. But he used/try use me to make one site affiliate manager believe other group was wrong and site need to pay him not to hab who told in last page got scammed too. I dont who get moneys after all. He was maybe fake all emails what he shows to me proof of this guys is wrong... Sorry Jose and Pablo. Funny is that he talking me in skype after last message have wrote to this thread and told he start to paying back after few month. Anyone have get any moneys back or lose all?

guys, I know this thread has gone quiet, but just to let you know that this guy is going to the London Affiliate Conference this weekend. So I'm guessing there's a half chance some of you may be there.

If you download the IGB app and create a profile (you have to applly for attendance which is free), his name appears in the attendees list, representing a strange sounding company called 'ANKOMMGmbH'.

I wanted to comment this accusations thats why i have reopened a new account and asked Bob to let me please give my statements here.

I know it has been a long time


I will go one by one

Blewjob – I spoke to you many times and i explained you the situation, as yourself said we did before trades and there was no problem there has been no intention from me to scam you out.
I send to more US Players money and there was never a problem.

I will contact you over skype again regarding this but anyhow the case is still the same , money is confisticated and I can not do anything.

I also can't commit to anything here as this case is still with the court. You will see at the end where i live and where i go and you can meet me up there.

Vule – you say i scammed you for 15k$ ? May i remind you that i never forced you to buy an Affiliate Account from me ? i never forced you to send me money for this transaction ?

besides this you got access to the affiliate account , you saw the numbers and THAN you decided to buy this off. At this given time it was clear that this was a profitable Business for you... it is out of my hand that a network falls apart and does not pay their clients and that they are in return not able to pay the players, affiliates.

I’m talking here about revolution network !

you got also on top contact details from every subaffiliates and every player

It is beyond my control if you are not able to work within this contacts or just don’t have the time to do so, but you got for what you paid for.

It would be very easy for you to get this contacts to work with you and each of them would have brought you a nice amount of cash every month. You can not claim the money back from me here and it is far away from a scam.


If I use another name or anything like this, it does not mean im scamming you .... you got on top a lot of very good deals which you wasn’t able to get and you made a lot of money through this ! There you was quite happy and one thing goes wrong and you trying to get over me .


You can hold your horses now


ExtremHard – you are really nutz, we had an agreement to work togheter otherwise why would you share your dropbox with me ? plus i took back the account after and i said it before, you was trying to cheat players in fake rake races and I told you that Im not doing this.

I have released the Account back to you and there was no help from a Manager, this was my own decision .. besides empty poker account ... you telling me .. that you paid 7k€ for empty poker accounts ? You telling me now that you did not check this accounts before ? that you do not get access to them and just after you send the money ? In fact this accounts wasn’t empty .. there was a great deal behind every account and this was the reason why you took it over , there wasn’t much action that is true, maybe 2-3 subaffiliates and few players.. but you have been told this and you have agreed to this after checking everything... especially for the Deal you bought this.

yrmom – whats the matter with you, you played under me for few months and i told you the deal goes down from 65% to 60% ... why you always jumping in every thread as before to claim i scammed you... you raked around 3000$ and 5% are 150$ ... for the love of god , send me a PM with your skrill/neteller and i will have send it to you ... there is no need to protect your friend here always, and you know who I’m talking about.

He can come by hisself you are not his nursering mum


39suited – great to have you here aswell , i was quite shady that’s why we talked every day and did chip dumping back than .. where both of our accounts got frozen .. if thats what you claim as shady than why you did it too ? this was in 2006 or 2007, can u come over it for now ? Otherwise you sure have my contact details just contact me and speak to me ... or open a thread and tell them what i did to you .


TimStone – we both hang out in Malta, went to restaurants, did Party and so on.. i was in your house many times .. if you had a problem with me, why you didn’t just told me than and asked me not to come ? instead of going in a forum and say you was always thinking im shady ... if I would think that of someone i would say it to him in the face and say .. im sorry i just don’t want to hang out with you.

larcen – you are right, i do owe you money and im really sorry about that, could you pls PM me your skrill or netller and send me your skype as well and i will have it sorted out.


SkillBill82 – way to go Igor from slottyvegas to breach the customers privacy agreement by giving my details out I gave you when signing up at your Brand. This and You is just a joke.


About the accounts Bob has asked, i think there is no statement needed.


For everyone else who has to say something to me, I will attend the AAC in Amsterdam .. yes Vule you can meet me too there or send someone.

There is no big secret about where I live .. i live in Malta. But i will not accept that a Casino Manager is giving confidential details about me .. where he has no right to do so.

for extremhard:

http://habpokerlie.blogspot.com/ - just as a proof

Igor you are on a personal agenda for no reason or you may have a reason ... just because Bryan is letting you play on his playground it does not mean you can do that everywhere.

if one wants to know who is Igor: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ad.php?t=67397

His post was done here exactly when this thread was opened.

I have explained myself here and you still do breach the privacy agreement

I'm not sure if you are aware of what you are doing right now as this can cost your gambling licence and your position.

You using the exact same wordings you did per PM so there is no doubt who is writing... you accusing me of having 2 identities but you are just doing the same right now.


Just say who you are and what the problem is you have ?

i will contact you and discuss this