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08-31-2014 , 10:38 PM
I was thinking about getting a macbook because i hear macbook rarely have viruses or problems. However, if one wants to use Holdem Manager 2 and Tableninja, then you have to have windows is that correct? So basically with a macbook, you going to have to spend extra money to buy bootcamp and thus you would be running windows on a macbook so you would still have the same issues with lags/viruses etc?

Last edited by Mike Haven; 03-19-2016 at 12:57 PM. Reason: PaulyJames200x's 51 threads merged
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09-01-2014 , 01:38 AM
That's about right. Though BootCamp is free if you do it that way. Parallels has a cost, that's essentially running Windows inside of OSX.

If a basic poker computer is what you want a Windows machine is the way to go. If you want a high end MacBook the better ones are pretty nice Windows computers in their own right, but you'd want to make use of OSX and some of its benefits to make the cost worth your while. Lot of extra money involved there.
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09-01-2014 , 11:24 PM
My laptop is Asus u45jc-a1

i3 m370 @ 2.4 ghz processor

8gb ram that is upgraded from 4gb ram

250gb ssd samsung that was upgraded last year from a 7200 rpm 500gb hard drive.


While playing 20 tables and running HEM2 and Tableninja 1, there is considerable lag. I also have tons of chrome web pages and also listen to music when i play. I would say the moment i hit close to 20 table is when the lagging is a big problem because i start sitting out in my tables though i do have the never sit out option for Tableninja. So many times it cause lot of hands to fold.


Im looking for a 14.1 laptop thats an i7 laptop. Reason is because 15.4' laptop always look a bit too big and bulky for me. Also i will be connecting it to an external monitor so the laptop size whether 14.1 or 15.4 shouldn't be any issue. Also prefer 14.1 because i feel its the perfect laptop size without being too heavy. Also I like a laptop that looks good, thus my asus one was a very nice looking laptop which is why i bought that one many years ago. I also thought at that time i3 was good enough.


Also once i get the laptop, i would then immediately replace whatever hard drive is in the computer with my current samsung 250gb ssd hard drive right since that hard drive will probably be a 7200 rpm hard drive? And also if it only has 4gb, then i take my two 4gb ram sticks and replace the new computer ram so i could have 8gb ram total like I do now?


Also is there a chance if i have someone do a clean reinstalltion of my laptop and wipe the hard drive and everything, then theres a chance my current laptop will be good enough to handle 20+ tabling with HEM2 and Tableninja 1 along with music and lot of tabs? Thing is I don't know how to clean my computer and make it faster. Because if i could then i would prefer it because i still like this laptop a lot especially the look of it. Or should i just upgrade because i7 is very important and i3 is not good enough?


From what i see online, is basically my only option for an i7 and it being 14.1 the two lenovos?

Lenovo U430

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Ultrabo...s=lenovo+i7+14


Lenovo Y40

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops.../y-series/y40/
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09-01-2014 , 11:54 PM
both the i7's on those laptops are dual core, low voltage weak processors. For laptop i7's, you want a 4xxx HQ or MQ.. or if its the last gen, 3xxx QM. those are the powerful quad core CPUs

there arent many i7 quad core 14 inch laptops. i would get this one
http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.p...el_name=NP2740

Last edited by Love_the_game; 09-02-2014 at 12:16 AM.
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09-02-2014 , 01:18 AM
Hey. So what is the name of my i3 m370 processor then if these i7 laptops are dual core low voltage weak processors.


So you are saying both of these laptops which use the same i7 processor is probably not going to be that much better than my current i3 m370 processor?


Also, does this basically mean the laptop speed i want so i could play many tables with hem2 and tableninja, the laptop will have to be a gaming laptop? The thing is i don't really want a gaming laptop as well i don't play any games at all on computer besides online poker.
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09-02-2014 , 02:17 AM
the i3 370m is also a dual core but is clocked at 2.4ghz with no turbo boost. the i7-4500U is a dual core clocked at 1.8 ghz with turbo boost up to 3ghz. The "U" processors are "ultra low power" processors and are meant for ultrabooks to have longer battery life. the performance differences between the i7-4500u and the i3-370m using all cores is minimal.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i...70M#conclusion
http://ark.intel.com/products/49020/...cache-2_40-GHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/75460/...up-to-3_00-GHz

contrast that with comparison between the i3-370m and a i7-4750HQ (the processor in the laptop i linked). its a substantial performance difference.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i...l-Core-i3-370M

you dont need a gaming laptop for poker because you dont need a GPU. But for running 20 tables, hm2, and other programs simultaneously you want a strong CPU and fast hard drive or SSD.
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09-02-2014 , 10:01 AM
Hi. So you are saying that if you get one of those 2 laptops that is i7-4500u, then theres a good chance i will have the same issues with 20 tabling + with hem2 and tableninja?

Yea i don't need a gaming laptop and don't really want a gaming laptop because i don't like the look of a gaming laptop. But doesn't it seem like any laptop thats the i7-4750HQ or MQ that you recommend almost always a gaming laptop?

Another thing i want to ask since you mentioned something about it. So any laptop that has that i7-4750HQ or MQ processor that battery will be very poorly then? My currently laptop back when i bought it... i would say it lasted 2 to 2.5 hours before i needed to recharge when playing poker and running programs. Now its more like 1.5 hour to 2. So basically with that quad core processor, my laptop will have to be plugged in all the time? Is the battery life going to be very poor even if im web browsing only? That seems to be one negative thing about it though i rarely if ever bring my laptop outside.
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09-02-2014 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Hi. So you are saying that if you get one of those 2 laptops that is i7-4500u, then theres a good chance i will have the same issues with 20 tabling + with hem2 and tableninja?

Yea i don't need a gaming laptop and don't really want a gaming laptop because i don't like the look of a gaming laptop. But doesn't it seem like any laptop thats the i7-4750HQ or MQ that you recommend almost always a gaming laptop?

Another thing i want to ask since you mentioned something about it. So any laptop that has that i7-4750HQ or MQ processor that battery will be very poorly then? My currently laptop back when i bought it... i would say it lasted 2 to 2.5 hours before i needed to recharge when playing poker and running programs. Now its more like 1.5 hour to 2. So basically with that quad core processor, my laptop will have to be plugged in all the time? Is the battery life going to be very poor even if im web browsing only? That seems to be one negative thing about it though i rarely if ever bring my laptop outside.
Looks aren't everything.

By the way, did you really need to start a new thread given you already had a thread basically covering the same thing?
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09-02-2014 , 03:47 PM
im not sure how much of the graphics 20 tables and hud uses. to the higher degree it depends on the GPU, the more improvement youll see with the laptops you want.(more so with the y40). But i know that poker isnt too reliant on the graphics. The y40 is considered a gaming laptop because of its good GPU. But you dont need a GPU to play poker. Integrated graphics Intel HD 4000+ will suffice. The i3 you have now does have a weak integrated graphics which could be part of the reason for lag. For poker, you want a stronger CPU over graphics. i would even get a standard i5 CPU over those i7 "U" processors. For example the i5-4300M has a base clock speed of 2.6ghz and a turbo up to 3.3 ghz. Much better than the i7-4500u base clock of 1.8.

I have 2 laptops. Both with 3rd generation intel CPUs. One has a i7-3610 QM (quad core) and the other has a i5-3337u. both have SSDs ,8 gigs of ram and have 1080p screens. there is a substantial performance difference between those 2. i can feel the lag on the "u" processor when i do something that taxes the CPU.

a i7 quad core does use more power but that doesnt necessarily mean the battery life will be poor. it will definitely be less than if you were using a "U" processor but you can find laptops with good battery life (macbook pro) comes to mind. Just need to find a laptop with a good battery ( 6 cell ++ and high mAh).
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09-06-2014 , 01:06 PM
Asus u45jc-a1 laptop. My laptop charger cable is in pretty bad shape. You see the wiring broken in the wires on the top part, thus you see the grey wiring inside.


When i charge my laptop recently, the charger would go on and off. Such as charging then not charging. I then took a look and the green light on the laptop charger is green then dims then green again over and over again. So the only way i can fix this issue is unplug the other part of the 2 charger, theres 2 parts then put it back together over and over again then connect it to my laptop. Many times it has same issue. However, few times i would get it to work and thus it would be charging.


However few times it would have same issue where problem arises again. But few times however if i make sure i dont move any part of the laptop charger cable... then it would always be charging which is good and thus working. So i figure it has to be my laptop charger as you see its broken the wiring part and its mainly at the top of the wiring near the place where you plug it into laptop.


Well i then read online that it might be the battery. So I then took out the battery and just connected my charger to my laptop without the battery. Obviously it shows no battery detected... however, the laptop doesn't have an issue with the power going out. Thus it shows green light all the time on the charger.


Does this mean i have to get a new battery as oppose to a charger? First thought was charger is bad since the broken wiring in certain places and thus its in not so good condition but it has zero problems with power when battery is taken out and im plugged in.


Im going to most likely get another charger as this one is pretty bad condition but curious if the battery might be the issue.
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09-06-2014 , 01:17 PM
Get a new charger and if you still have the same issues get a new battery.
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09-08-2014 , 05:34 AM
Its possible that one has damaged the other... you do need a new power supply, so start there. If problem not solved buy a new battery.
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09-29-2014 , 04:39 PM
Hey im looking at the sager one right now on xoticpc.


http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np2740-...wconfigure=yes


If i get this one, do i need to do any upgrades to it? First off, would upgrading 8gb ram to 16gb ram be worth it? Xotic pc charges another 90 dollars for this. I believe i could get one on amazon an 8gb for 80 dollars or so and have a friend install it but woudl it be better to have it done by xotic pc as both 8gb sticks would be same brand or thats not an issue?


I currently have a 250gb ssd samsung one on my asus u45jc-a1 laptop. So i would then replace that hard drive with this one currently? The thing is wouldn't the sager still be a bit slow since i would be transferring my current ssd into the sager laptop? Currently 95gb available out of 232gb showing on my ssd laptop. Should i get a new 250gb ssd all together or would that be a waste of money? Note, i wouldn't do anything at all with this ssd in my asus and would just leave it there. Also would it be best to wipe out everything in my current ssd hard drive right now before i transfer it to the sager if i choose this?


I see an option for an external video adapter. Do i need this or not? The thing is my laptop will be connected to a monitor almost all the time when im playing. I will be connecting it to a 24' laptop with 1600x1200 resolution. I mean there might a chance i use a 27' laptop with bigger resolution but the chance of that happening is close to zero.
If im only planning to connect the sager to one external monitor with 1600x1200 resolution... would i need the external display video adapter or not? Im not sure so i dont want to buy the sager then i find out i can't connect to the external monitor thats 1600x1200 resolution. Im guessing unless you are connecting to at least 2 monitors then you need it? I always thought any computer whether laptop or deskto could connect to a monitor without any issues.


1 x USB 2.0 FHD Video Adapter [HDMI / DVI / VGA] (Laptop Display + External Display from Laptop + USB FHD Adapter = 4 Total Displays) (up to 2048x1152 Resolution)
( + 99 )

2 x USB 2.0 FHD Video Adapter [HDMI / DVI / VGA] (Laptop Display + External Display from Laptop + USB FHD Adapter = 6 Total Displays) (up to 2048x1152 Resolution)
( + 195 )

Wireless HDMI Adapter (Transmitter & Receiver System for HD 1080p & 3D Support)
( + 209 )
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09-29-2014 , 05:21 PM
the only reason why you need 16 gb of ram is if youre going to render videos. Otherwise you wont come close to using that much and its a waste of money. You wont even use all 8 gb of ram.

to use your current SSD on a new laptop, you will need to reinstall windows on it. If youre not comfortable doing that you might want to upgrade to SSD when you purchase. I see that an upgrade to 250gb samsung evo is $110 on xoticpc. Thats cheaper than whats its currently selling for elsewhere ($140). plus it saves you the hassle of doing it yourself. You can then just sell your current SSD after youve wiped it clean.

You dont need those video adapters. That laptop comes with a Hdmi and mini display port. you can just buy a hdmi cable or minidisplayport cable for $5. Or if your monitor only had a vga or dvi port you can just buy a hdmi to dvi/vga cable for around $5.
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09-29-2014 , 06:40 PM
Hey thanks for that information with the ram and ssd.

So if i wanted to use multiple monitors and or use monitors with very high resolution... i still would be able to do this?

If so, what are these video adapters they are charging that cost so much more?
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09-29-2014 , 07:22 PM
laptops can only support 2 external monitors at once. those adapters are for 3 monitors.

that laptop comes with a i7-4750HQ cpu which has iris pro 5200 integrated graphics which is one of the best integrated graphics and will support a 4k monitor at 60hz through the display port.
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09-29-2014 , 09:37 PM
Thanks for that information. But if i ever want to use 3 monitors which i would probably never do, then i would be able to buy this video adapter later on?


What do you mean by this current intergrated graphics support a 4k monitor? Not sure what you mean by that number.


So the y40 would thus be a waste of money then right since its a u4510? That graphics card isn't that good then?


The thing is im wondering if its my laptop that is the reason for the lag b/c i usually download a lot of stuff then it lags.


Do you know anyone with a processor like mine and they have no problem with hem2 or tableninja?
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09-29-2014 , 10:54 PM
yea you can buy video adapters at any time.

a 4k monitor has 3840 x 2160 resolution. its just another way of saying it will support any monitor you buy.

the y40 isnt good for poker because it has a relatively weak CPU and a GPU (AMD Radeon R9 M270) which you dont need.

to check if its your CPU thats causing the lag, start playing the # of tables you normally play and hem2. While your running the programs, open task manager (ctrl+shift+esc) and see what % of the CPU is being used.
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09-30-2014 , 02:09 PM
Hey. When im playing a lot of tables... rarely does the cpu percentage usage go more than 60 percent. There has been times it got to 80 percent but its rare and thats if i have lot of chrome windows open as well. As far the memory, i upgraded it from 4gb to 8gb as well when i had my ssd installed into my asus laptop.


The thing is it never hit 4gb when i had 4gb of ram only. Also ever since i had 8gb of ram... i don't believe it ever reached 4gb of ram ever used up even when i had lot of tables open.


What does that mean then? So does that mean its not my cpu thats causing the lag then?
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09-30-2014 , 02:13 PM
Also can you tell me what laptops that are i5 that are quad core and not u series? Im checking amazon for some i5 laptops as well but not sure what to type in.

Such that when i put i7 laptop quadcore i see some laptops or put u4510 for i7 but what about i5 quad core laptops?
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09-30-2014 , 04:00 PM
ok you may not need a new computer. whens the last time you reformated the hard drive?

you may want to do a clean reinstall of windows (delete the existing partition) and see if it continues to lag.
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09-30-2014 , 08:54 PM
I had a friend switch my 7200 rpm hard drive to a 250gb ssd hard drive back in August 2013.


I then loaded my asus startup disk to install windows 7. I have never formatted it ever again. However i did make a few mistakes in dragfragging my laptop quite a bit and then was told you should never defrag an ssd so i stopped.


Does that mean anything?
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09-30-2014 , 09:03 PM
Another thing i want to mention is i reinstalled my laptop many times before this. However each time i did this, i would just put the asus cd to do the reinstall... however, each time that i did this, i never completely wiped out the 7200 rpm hard drive because i didn't know how to. So many times when my asus laptop i3-370m with 4gb ram would get slow, i would then do a reinstllation of it. I say i did it maybe 2x a year. But when i did this, i would see the old files folder on it.


Then around august 2013, i bought the ssd then had a friend install the ssd for me then i of course had to reinstall windows. It was fast at first like usual but then when i later played on stars, i noticed the lag when playing 20 plus tables with hem2 and tn on.
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09-30-2014 , 09:41 PM
Pauly:

I had basically the same requirements you do.

Lenovo's Carbon X1 has i7 chips, but only dual core.

I ended up settling for MacBook Pro 15" with quad core. It's still larger than I wanted but it was thin enough I thought it was a decent compromise.
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09-30-2014 , 09:59 PM
defrag doesnt really help with SSDs. it may reduce the life of the SSD by adding unnecessary read/write cycles.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/20475...-your-ssd.html

i would save your important files and do a clean reinstall of windows first. if the problem still persists, then i would buy a new computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mME9VLT7-xw
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