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Old 08-02-2012, 03:42 AM   #1
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Poker laptop / considering switching to apple

Is there a laptop that will play 12 tables tiled with no overlap? Considering switch to apple always seem to have problems with pcs after a while apparently less viruses on macs to? Does HM or PT work on macs? Only really going to be using pokerstars, TN, HM/PT, iTunes and basic Internet. Also need hdmi or dvi port eyc for monitor. Also good security / virus software? No real budget whatever does the job sufficient
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:43 AM   #2
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Re: Poker laptop / considering switching to apple

You can't really tile 12 tables with no overlap, unless you get one of the Macbooks that has really high resolution. They usually cost over $2,000 new.

Macs have problems like any computer, they're not immune to freezing and crashing and hardware failure. Viruses are less common though, because Mac users make up a much smaller percentage of internet users than PC, so nobody really bothers to write malware for Mac. Viruses are pretty rare on PC too though, if you avoid suspicious stuff.

You can get PokerStars, TN, and HM/PT to run on a Mac, but you need to set up an emulator that basically acts like a Windows environment so you can run software intended for Windows inside that emulator, inside Mac OS. And there are usually random little bugs you can never quite fix because emulation isn't perfect.

I've seen HDMI ports on nicer Macbooks, but I don't think I've ever seen one with DVI.

If poker is a necessity I'd avoid Mac OS.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:47 AM   #3
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Re: Poker laptop / considering switching to apple

Yeah poker is the main purpose 99% of the time if i got a mac it would be to use the OS otherwise id just get a pc for windows.
Was looking into the new MBP but wondering if mac air will do the same job or screensize to small etc i guess? Any grinders use OS?
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:21 AM   #4
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Re: Poker laptop / considering switching to apple

Playing poker 99% of the time would be an almost complete waste of a MBP. I'd would be basically be a Windows machine with a nice display and chassis. I think Pokertracker works on Mac or something natively, or it did, but it seems like all of the Mac owners here switch over to Windows on their machines to play poker for Table Ninja or whatever else they use.

Viruses and malware are very manageable if you exercise some caution on the internet, employ a few quality security tools, and make regular backups. OSX and Linux architectures are more resistant to these problems though, no question.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:36 AM   #5
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what should i look for then? the biggest and highest resoultion so i can tile 12 tables?
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:47 AM   #6
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Re: Poker laptop / considering switching to apple

almost all virus/malware problems come from running your computer in administrator account, and blindly installing things. read the sticky on how to stop 90% of viruses
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:11 PM   #7
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gonso are you able to tell me what specs i should be looking for all i no is look for a SSD thanks in advance
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:36 PM   #8
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For a poker laptop I'd prioritize high resolution, a non-trivial GPU, and an SSD, in that order.

That eliminates 90% of the field, because most laptops don't offer high resolution, use crappy integrated graphics, and a moving-parts HDD.

Most premium laptops today offer 1080p as their max resolution. You'll probably be able to 12-table that in a 4x3 grid with no overlap but the tables won't be full size and you might have some difficulty getting your HUD to look right if you play 6m and especially if you play 9m.

For resolution, at least 1920x1080 (1080p). Some laptops offer higher but that's hard to find outside of Macbook's Retina display, it's a very new thing for laptops.

Any laptop that offers 1080p will also offer a non-trivial GPU, so that takes care of itself.

And for the SSD, aim for a capacity you're comfortable with. If you don't really store any music or videos or pictures or keep lots of installs on your computer, that might be 120GB, but for most people it'll be 240GB.

The other specs don't matter that much if all you're doing is poker. Poker and poker databasing isn't a very processor- or RAM-heavy activity, and if you're getting 1080p your laptop is in a premium category, so the other specs should automatically be sufficient.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:43 AM   #9
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Re: Poker laptop / considering switching to apple

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For a poker laptop I'd prioritize high resolution, a non-trivial CPU, and an SSD, in that order.

That eliminates 90% of the field, because most laptops don't offer high resolution, use crappy integrated graphics, and a moving-parts HDD.

Most premium laptops today offer 1080p as their max resolution. You'll probably be able to 12-table that in a 4x3 grid with no overlap but the tables won't be full size and you might have some difficulty getting your HUD to look right if you play 6m and especially if you play 9m.

For resolution, at least 1920x1080 (1080p). Some laptops offer higher but that's hard to find outside of Macbook's Retina display, it's a very new thing for laptops.

Any laptop that offers 1080p will also offer a non-trivial GPU, so that takes care of itself.

And for the SSD, aim for a capacity you're comfortable with. If you don't really store any music or videos or pictures or keep lots of installs on your computer, that might be 120GB, but for most people it'll be 240GB.

The other specs don't matter that much if all you're doing is poker. Poker and poker databasing isn't a very processor- or RAM-heavy activity, and if you're getting 1080p your laptop is in a premium category, so the other specs should automatically be sufficient.
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edit: I should elaborate. If you're buying a new pc then the only components that you really have to worry about if you are using it for poker are screen (resolution), hard drive (ssd) and RAM (8gb or more).
If you get a 3rd generation Intel processor, HD 4000 is more than enough for playing poker as it can handle 1080p video and a 30" external monitor.

@ OP

I think if you get a Mac for poker you should definetly get the 15" with the Retina display. Or even an old 17" (but the 15" is sexier). You can use PT2 for Mac and PT4 and HM2 plan on being Mac compatible in the forseeable future...
Sounds like your real question is more about using Mac OS then just the hardware though. I would advise against buying a Mac to use Mac OS for poker (but installing Windows on a Retina Mac is nice for poker).
I've been thinking about getting a new laptop myself, because mine is closing in on 5 years age and I'm starting to feel the old hardware at times. What I like about the Retina Mac is that it's super light and the screen is obviously the nuts. It's a beautiful piece of hardware all around. If I didn't care about weight, I'd definetly get an Asus G75VW though.

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Old 08-09-2012, 06:12 AM   #10
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I'm considering the new MBP what windows laptop is there to compare? I'm thinking I want something that's 17inch plus with high resolution, 2 ports to get up duel monitors i7 min and a SSD and maybe 12mb ram plus? Is there any laptops with those specs or is that asking to much?
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:29 AM   #11
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I'm considering the new MBP what windows laptop is there to compare? I'm thinking I want something that's 17inch plus with high resolution, 2 ports to get up duel monitors i7 min and a SSD and maybe 12mb ram plus? Is there any laptops with those specs or is that asking to much?
No, you can get those specs easy. There is a thread about the dual monitor thing and basically you can connect up to six monitors with an adapter from Kensington, but this won't allow for resolutions higher than 1900x1200 (or 2100x1100 something like that). If you want to plug in two external 30" monitors then I'm not sure that can be done without a thunderbolt port. You would have to Google for the specific model. I am sure you can go daisy chain with thunderbolt and go laptop-thunderbolt compatibale montior-thunderbolt compatible monitor.
A laptop that can do this for example and has all that you requested is the G75VW-DS72 from Asus: http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-G75VW-DS7...keywords=g75vw
My issue with this laptop is that it is really heavy so in a way it isn't comparable to the MBP Retina as the ASUS-G75VW is more of a desktop replacement.
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