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03-10-2015 , 02:20 PM
Hello guys,
I have already asked this question but I have got really confused from the comments and actually some parts of the suggested specs aren't available for sale in my country.
I really don't know nothing about this topic so I desperately need your help on building a computer specs, basically my almost only use will be grind multi tabling and some music and internet. The most important thingto me is that the computer will be able to run optimally the tracking software and the 3rd party softwares I own such as Note Caddy Edge, HRC and PokerRanger, and since im clueless about hardware I need you to help me with that. My Budget is about 1.1k$~, but you should take in count that the prices in my country are pretty expensive so if you build the optimal specs by this budget it might be more expensive im my country and might be overpriced.
Im planning to buy the Dell U2414H in addition to the computer (not include in the specs budget) if it's matters.
Thanks!
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03-11-2015 , 04:46 AM
It would probably help more if you had posted in your original thread. As it is, can you please link to it so we can see what was recommended before?

On top of that, you are obviously going to get similar answers to last time. If so of what was recommended is not available, it would help if you could tell us what those things were.

It might also help to tell us what country you're in.
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03-11-2015 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by thunderbolts
It would probably help more if you had posted in your original thread. As it is, can you please link to it so we can see what was recommended before?

On top of that, you are obviously going to get similar answers to last time. If so of what was recommended is not available, it would help if you could tell us what those things were.

It might also help to tell us what country you're in.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/48...specs-1451690/
This is the last theard, it was along time ago and I didnt wanted to bump it so I opened new one. Also I dont want that people will be "specs oriented" and build specs by the one that others have already suggested
I live in Israel and I searched in some shops in my area the Arc Midi R2 case and the EVGA 500 w and didnt found one, I guess I can find those if it's so important so ignore my ask and feel free to choose whatever you think.
Thanks for your help.
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03-13-2015 , 07:29 AM
Help plz?
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03-13-2015 , 03:55 PM
Since I don't know what is available in your country, here is what you should look for in each pc part, listed from most to less important.

A decent cpu should do, no need to go overboard. An i3 2xxx should do for example. Those are quite common, you should find those in israel, but if you insist on a 1.1K budget, look for a cpu with hyperthreading since HUDs are multithread applications, i think i7 models have it, you can check if an intel model has hyperthreading here http://ark.intel.com/.

Ram is important too, look for low CAS latency, high speeds and anything over 8GB should do.

Hard Disk is quite important too since you'll be running a HUD with a big database, especially later on when the hand history grows. 7200rpm should be a minimum, anything more than that is obviously better. If you can get an SSD and install your HUD database there, I think it would help a lot. I don't think you need to though, but since you are on an 1.1k budget.

No need for a graphics card.
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03-13-2015 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveThee
Since I don't know what is available in your country, here is what you should look for in each pc part, listed from most to less important.

A decent cpu should do, no need to go overboard. An i3 2xxx should do for example. Those are quite common, you should find those in israel, but if you insist on a 1.1K budget, look for a cpu with hyperthreading since HUDs are multithread applications, i think i7 models have it, you can check if an intel model has hyperthreading here http://ark.intel.com/.

Ram is important too, look for low CAS latency, high speeds and anything over 8GB should do.

Hard Disk is quite important too since you'll be running a HUD with a big database, especially later on when the hand history grows. 7200rpm should be a minimum, anything more than that is obviously better. If you can get an SSD and install your HUD database there, I think it would help a lot. I don't think you need to though, but since you are on an 1.1k budget.

No need for a graphics card.
Thanks, I do know that CPU and SSD are the most important part in the PC but beside that I dont really know what else should I buy, does all the other components are not important? And why bot buy video card? Isnt that necessary item to have in PC? I really don't know nothing about this and I will appreciate if you or any one else will share his knowledge and recommend on all other items beside CPU and SSD.
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03-13-2015 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceOTR
Thanks, I do know that CPU and SSD are the most important part in the PC but beside that I dont really know what else should I buy, does all the other components are not important? And why bot buy video card? Isnt that necessary item to have in PC? I really don't know nothing about this and I will appreciate if you or any one else will share his knowledge and recommend on all other items beside CPU and SSD.
GPUs are necessary to play high end videogames or 3d rendering. Not only can you run without a GPU but you can play most games on low settings with the graphics card integrated with most CPUs.

Aside from a case, motherboard and peripherals; CPU, Ram and a disk are all you need. You can go to a pc shop and pick your parts and they'll pick a motherboard and case. Otherwise you can just look for built pcs availabe in israel and posts the specs here, and if they're good you get that one. I don't know a thing about motherboards or cases, but maybe someone might help with that.
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03-14-2015 , 10:39 AM
Ok, I asked from friend of mine to build me one that can answer my demands, this is the specs:

Quad Core i7 4790 3.6Ghz S1150
Gigabyte GA-B85M-D2V S1150
16GB (2x8GB) Transcend DDR3 1600Mhz
Seagate 2T 3.5' Sata3 Barracuda 3 Years Warranty
LG DVD-RW X24 GH24NS90
NZXT H230 Black + Antec 500W BUNDLE
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2

Should I add SSD? Should I add video card just in case I want to play some light weighted games like Football Manager or so?
Does the components are reliable and quality? Should I change or upgrade something? I still got some budget left to upgrade the crucial components.
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03-14-2015 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceOTR
Ok, I asked from friend of mine to build me one that can answer my demands, this is the specs:

Quad Core i7 4790 3.6Ghz S1150
Gigabyte GA-B85M-D2V S1150
16GB (2x8GB) Transcend DDR3 1600Mhz
Seagate 2T 3.5' Sata3 Barracuda 3 Years Warranty
LG DVD-RW X24 GH24NS90
NZXT H230 Black + Antec 500W BUNDLE
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2

Should I add SSD? Should I add video card just in case I want to play some light weighted games like Football Manager or so?
Does the components are reliable and quality? Should I change or upgrade something? I still got some budget left to upgrade the crucial components.
No, there is no need for an SSD, it only would give a slight boost on performance.
You can absolutely play football manager with i7 4790k's integrated graphics card.
You don't need an extra cooler, your CPU already comes with one and it will work fine.
I can vouch for your CPU, your RAM and your HDD.
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03-14-2015 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveThee
No, there is no need for an SSD, it only would give a slight boost on performance.
He wants to run tracking software, a HUD, and things like NoteCaddy Edge. IMO an SSD will make a much bigger difference to performance than you suggest. It also comes at a cost, obviously, but something like 256GB is comparatively inexpensive these days.
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03-14-2015 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by thunderbolts
He wants to run tracking software, a HUD, and things like NoteCaddy Edge. IMO an SSD will make a much bigger difference to performance than you suggest. It also comes at a cost, obviously, but something like 256GB is comparatively inexpensive these days.
I don't know, unless the database is really really big. SSD is only going to impact initialization and importing, which isn't a big deal.
I don't think the database will ever be bigger than 8GB. In this case the database should be loaded to the RAM and all the queries should be done from there.
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03-14-2015 , 09:13 PM
I have some experience with this and will say that if you run the software OP described without an SSD you are going to have a bad time
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03-15-2015 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
I have some experience with this and will say that if you run the software OP described without an SSD you are going to have a bad time
Does the current specs with 120gb SSD (Crucial M500) will be good enough or I should have better specs/SSD?
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03-15-2015 , 10:18 AM
That SSD should work fine for you it is has a 500mb a sec read n 130mb write so will allow for quick loading, SSD's are great for operating system's n programs that load big databases, I use it for my games as well tbh. Makes life easier.

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/storage-ssd-m500 is the stats for the SSD
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03-15-2015 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceOTR
Does the current specs with 120gb SSD (Crucial M500) will be good enough or I should have better specs/SSD?
If it's in addition to the 2tb and you use it for the database while the HDD does the OS swapping then I think you are making good decisions
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03-15-2015 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
I have some experience with this and will say that if you run the software OP described without an SSD you are going to have a bad time
What was your experience and what makes you think that your disk read write was the bottleneck?
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03-15-2015 , 11:49 PM
+1 to Sreti and thunderbolts.

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Originally Posted by LoveThee
What was your experience and what makes you think that your disk read write was the bottleneck?
I'm fairly sure he's a/the developer of NC(E). Also, does the first hand experience of every poker player who ever upgraded from HDD to SSD count?

Major LOL at your "db's don't grow bigger than 8GB" comment.

FWIW OP, a dedicated GPU is also highly recommended for running hi-res displays or multi monitor setups.
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03-16-2015 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Baobhan-Sith
+1 to Sreti and thunderbolts.


I'm fairly sure he's a/the developer of NC(E). Also, does the first hand experience of every poker player who ever upgraded from HDD to SSD count?

Major LOL at your "db's don't grow bigger than 8GB" comment.

FWIW OP, a dedicated GPU is also highly recommended for running hi-res displays or multi monitor setups.
How big do your databases get??
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03-16-2015 , 04:24 PM
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/gene...ze-hm2-db.html
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General rule is 1 million hands = 10 GB.

In reality it's: 1 million hands
HM1: 6.8 GB
HM2: 4.3 GB
PT4: 13.6 GB

... We use 1 million = 10 GB (instead of 6.8) because when you want to perform a vacuum/analyse or backup/restore a database it will require a LOT of disk space to perform such a task.
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The biggest difference in performance will be seen if you upgrade your hard disk to a SSD.
HM2 system requirements
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Note: Having a fast hard drive helps Holdem Manager's performance drastically. We suggest using a 7200RPM hard drive or faster (i.e. SSD).
PT4 system requirements
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The number one factor for speed performance is hard drive speed, the PostgreSQL Server which powers the PokerTracker database commonly moves gigabytes of data to allow PokerTracker 4 to perform it's reporting duties. PokerTracker recommends at least a 7200RPM hard drive or faster, Solid State Drives (SSDs) are currently the fastest drives available for optimal performance.
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