Dropouts don't get degrees...I didn't drop out: I changed majors.

Ummm...ok. Maybe you don't think that people ever landed on the moon, either. You have fun.

No one could possibly be laughing at you, they must be conspiracy theorists.

I'm just curious which part you think is lol and why.

that an elite badminton player who had a back injury could squat 500lbs within the reasonably short time frame you have implied. that is what is lol, that is why i called you a liar. all this whilst breathing mid squat.

It took well over 2yrs to get to that point...where was it implied that it took less time?

no 2 years IS the reasonably short time frame.

If you say so...you have indicated zero training that would suggest an expertise that would warrant your belief. You have fun asserting the opposite of people's achievements whom you know nothing about over the interwebz. You're a real winner. 2 years of very hard work is easily enough time to do what I did. Your claim is like saying that you can't take a couch potato and have them run a marathon in 8 months...hard, but totally possible. On neither topic do you have any expertise, though...just your own views not backed up by anything other than your opinion and perhaps intuitions and anecdotes.

Just like you then ?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...vy-league.html

that is an article on a 295lb college level american footballer. he can squat 500lbs. he has obviously been strength training for more than 2 years, without the disadvantage of a back injury. he has NFL aspirations. i assume he weighs close to 100lbs more than you, and doesnt spend as much time as you did doing catabolic activities (such as badminton)

quotation from the article:

look up more american football squat information. even the most elite squatters there are squatting around 700lbs, and most of the big guys are squatting less than 600. there are plenty of nfl players who cannot squat 500. this is in a sport than selects for strength, with players who all have presumably been squatting 5 years plus and have elite genetics.

now can you see why claiming to squat 500lbs only 2 years after being injured so badly you struggled to carry a backpack and playing badminton, a catabolic sport where being too big disadvantages you, is an outrageous claim?

Exactly. I could do up to 200+the bar safely. Usually with less, though.

Why do you think NFL players are the right metric by which to judge? I had absurdly big legs for badminton...so big, in fact, that it was a big detriment to my game (I was extremely explosive for the first game or two, but would fade if it went to 3). Squats are something that I over-focused on in my training. I wasn't training nearly as smart as I could have...

You also seem to think that I started from scratch with my fitness...I was extremely fit going into the accident, which helped the recovery phase a lot.

http://www.crossfit.com/cf-journal/WLSTANDARDS.pdf

ok ignore nfl then (despite the fact you are comparing your strength levels to those of a 295lb football player, whatever). the above is a link to a table of strength standards created by mark rippetoe, a world renowned strength training expert.

a 500lb squat would make you "elite", the most advanced possible category, if you weighed 198lbs.

*edit* so anyway, i think ive done enough to show im not just running my mouth by calling you a liar. your claim has been shown too be pretty outrageous. if you could actually do this, how about some proof?

I wouldn't be so use this as a claim to your knowledge of working out.

He may have had 500 lbs on his back at some point in time, but he obv didn't go all the way down with it.

Relevant post on the subject matter.

This made me lol.

google has a number of links to references of "seated hack squat machine". It looks like they are sometimes referred to as "leg lift/seated hack squat machines".


PairTheBoard

Absolutely not. It was to approximately 85degrees of knee flexion.

fyi, that would typically be called a "partial squat"

what parlay slow said, but i still dont believe you.

wow @ the ownage in this thread

grunching

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valsalva_maneuver

Wait. You can be nationally ranked in badminton?

j/k, but wtf were you lifting heavy for? I would assume that ballistic exercises would be more appropriate, given my limited knowledge.

I was an indoor goalkeeper (decent) and boxer (subpar - probably the worst of all time), and my trainers wouldn't even let me touch heavy weights.

Granted, this was in the late '80s/early '90s, but still...

Yes, your trainers had a lifetime of experience to go on but he has a partial degree in kinesiology. His knowledge in that and his superb personal trainer skills make him all knowing. I guess we need to bow down to his genius in this aspect of life.

fwiw strength training a bit would be beneficial. boxing trainers are notorious for their old fashioned views wrt weight lifting (ie thinking its bad, mainly because it slows you down), but recently that has started to change, and all of the top boxers lift weights, even the small ones (amir khan is a good example: famous for his hand speed, has improved dramatically under freddie roach who has had him do a bunch of lower body strength training). i have no doubt that some strength training would be beneficial for a badminton player (stronger legs = faster acceleration, higher jump etc), but obviously not what you need to focus on, and gaining too much mass would be detrimental.

more relevantly to this thread, playing badminton is detrimental to your weight lifting.