Why do we hold our breath when we lift weights? - Page 4

No, it does not require relaxing...that's flat out false. Try it: go for maximum tightness in your core...now see if you can breathe...surprise, you can!

Not without losing some stability in your torso

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09-21-2010 , 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by durkadurka33

And not ONCE have I advocated relaxing your core...but this is not mutually exclusive with breathing out.

Martial artists, tennis players, boxers, MMA fighters...ALL breathe out when they're at their maximal exertion points.

They grunt. This provides a short-term maximal tightening in the torso. While they are technically expelling a very small amount of air, this is clearly different from the "breathing out" you are recommending.

They are using this technique for performance enhancement, not some misinformed idea about blowing a blood vessel.

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09-21-2010 , 05:58 PM

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I have a few questions Durka:

What sport were you a national level athlete in and what was your rank?
What do you consider as being heavy squats (or other lifts for that matter)?

Badminton. I was in the top 32.

I could squat 500 with no huge problem. I had a back issue that prevented me from doing more, though. In a seated squat machine I could do over 900 for reps.

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09-21-2010 , 06:19 PM

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there is no such thing as a seated squat machine.

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09-21-2010 , 06:38 PM

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aka seated hack squat (not the standing variety). I have no polite way of saying the obvious here: you have no idea what you're talking about.

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09-21-2010 , 06:45 PM

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there is no such thing as a seated squat, for the same reasons there is no such thing as a seated one leg stand.

i assumed you are referring to the leg press machine, ie something like this: http://www.technogym.com/gb/viewdoc....get=commercial

if so, the mechanics of the movement are different and there is no weight supported by the upper body so the abs are cut out of the equation: they are not meaningfully comparable to squats. if not, link?

also i am gonna call you out as a liar for your claim you could squat 500lbs. at best you are not lying, just deluded that a 2 inch curtsy with 500lbs across your back counts as a squat. given you dont appear to know what a squat actually is, this is possible

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09-21-2010 , 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by durkadurka33

Badminton. I was in the top 32.

I could squat 500 with no huge problem. I had a back issue that prevented me from doing more, though. In a seated squat machine I could do over 900 for reps.

Ding ding ding. Maybe your core wasn't tight enough to protect your spine?

Video of you squatting or I don't believe you can squat bodyweight, so ****ing clueless.

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09-21-2010 , 07:14 PM

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Ding ding ding. Maybe your core wasn't tight enough to protect your spine?

Video of you squatting or I don't believe you can squat bodyweight, so ****ing clueless.

It was a car accident genius.

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09-21-2010 , 07:15 PM

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yeah but maybe you wouldnt have been if you squatted properly

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09-21-2010 , 07:20 PM

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And maybe they were 100% unrelated and you have zero idea what the medical conditions concerning my back were. I had to work extremely hard on my core just to be able to carry around a backpack. The fact that I could eventually do squats of 500lbs is a testament to that. Furthermore, I was doing a lot of work with balls; for example, doing up to 240lb squats standing on a ball. 70% of my time in the gym was working on my core.

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09-21-2010 , 07:23 PM

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Badminton is fun

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09-21-2010 , 07:30 PM

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I was doing a lot of work with balls

Couldn't resist.

Carry on all.

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09-21-2010 , 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by durkadurka33

aka seated hack squat (not the standing variety).

Something like this?

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09-21-2010 , 07:43 PM

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Something like this?

As in NOT that kind...

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09-21-2010 , 08:08 PM

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now i'm curious

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09-21-2010 , 08:18 PM

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When he says,

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Originally Posted by durkadurka33

aka seated hack squat (not the standing variety). I have no polite way of saying the obvious here: you have no idea what you're talking about.

he means the leg press.

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09-21-2010 , 08:36 PM

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never mind

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09-21-2010 , 08:46 PM

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09-21-2010 , 09:35 PM

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ok not going to pile on and maybe there's a linguistic community for whom that's a seated hack squat, but that's an incline leg press machine

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09-21-2010 , 09:56 PM

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ok not going to pile on and maybe there's a linguistic community for whom that's a seated hack squat, but that's an incline leg press machine

I have no polite way of saying the obvious here: you have no idea what you're talking about.

j/k.. there's no such thing as a "seated hack squat" machine

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09-21-2010 , 09:58 PM

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Badminton. I was in the top 32.

I could squat 500 with no huge problem. I had a back issue that prevented me from doing more, though. In a seated squat machine I could do over 900 for reps.

Thank you, things are now clear to me.

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09-22-2010 , 03:07 AM

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So you look tougher when you're in the gym.

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09-22-2010 , 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by durkadurka33

This is why I quit being a personal trainer...because I got lumped into the same class as the fools to which you're referring.

I had 2 years of kinesiology behind me and I take my information from journals and studies...not some stupid personal training handbook.

So you're a kinesiology dropout?

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09-22-2010 , 06:02 AM

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You hold your breath because you're stressed and worried and holding your breath gives you a feeling of control and calm amidst the steel pressing on your flesh.