These are false statements. Take some math subjects for your own philosophical growth. Infinity doesn't destroy ratios, or other mathematical structures.

How do you account for ALL (100%) of something that doesn't end? How do you determine a percentage of that ALL when you cannot know what that ALL is?

Not sure why you insist on pretending to have knowledge that you don't.

The evidence is infinite.

How can infinity not exist while we are discussing it?

According to my mechanic, if a car makes a noise it will probably make it again.


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I hate to admit it but he appears to have that knowledge.

Maybe his 10^dozen hells are closer than my 10^100.

All in all you appear to stick to your idea unnecessarily strongly. Free yourself. There simply are bigger infinities than others. I'd recommend studying them. And then return to see if this life still may provide something.

Let's say the natural forces can vary infinitely. Only two forces will together then vary infinitely more than the one making you. masque talked about it.

If he's right, probably best not to take the noise too seriously.

Appearances can be deceiving.

Actual infinity includes all that partiality. You all haven't thought about it and are haughty to take charge rather than do so. We can't think for fools.

And the rest of my post? Edited it heavily.

I think infinities are yet another possibility for people taking the right to think what they wish, even if it's wrong.

Special magic exists in the places where we reach our intellectual limit or knowledge limit. We then default to our cognitive biases and wishes. Thus we have, in order of increasing intelligence/knowledge:

God of the weather. Naturally this God is petitionable, since humans don't like to be powerless
God of the heavens (once we otherstood weather). As above.
God of the gaps (once we understood evolution)
God of the big bang (once we understood more physics)
God of the multiverse (once we understood the nature of time)
God of the infinite multiverses (where all things happen and there is absolute justice because infinity).

Each of these would cured by a course in:

The physics of weather
The nature of space/the universe
How DNA creates body forms
The non-linear nature of time
The basic math of infinity
Some basic philosophy (for the ultimate justice claim)

A contest of dominating assertions about what people think about infinity lasts an infinite instant. Who won?

A question to hone in on this point:

Over the set of all possible mathematical relations in infinite universes where everything possible happens, is the number of primes (in universes where a prime can be defined) the same as the number of even numbers (in universes where an even number can be defined)? This is what our illustrious infinity connoisseur is claiming.

Or to make this clearer for those who can't grasp math (which is pure philosophy), a very simple question.

Is the number of entities that can be identified as "VeeDDzz" in the infinite universes equal to the number of cells in the number of entities that can be identified as "VeeDDzz" in these universes?

If the answer is no, structure and ratio survives infinity. If you claim the answer is "yes", on what basis do you make this claim?

Not necessarily. Firstly, technology is a double edged sword. The fire that cooks one's meals also burns down homes killing whole famiies.
Putting, everything that goes wrong due to advances in technology (due to the advances in science) all down to human stupidty is a little short-sighted.

Tegmark, pointed out that the 'the truth' or 'truths' have no reason to allign with our happiness and well being as we've evolved. And there may certainly be truths that are not worth knowing, too dangerous to know.









Bostrom wrote a book that can be counterargued (or not)http://jetpress.org/v25.2/goertzel.htm

Musk and Hawking put out some blurbs that we can ignore.

Here are yet some numbers: https://everything2.com/title/The+nu...f+the+universe

10^24425 states of the universes (the second post) is maybe what to be expected in the multiverse model. Add a suitable amount of zeroes to the 24425 if wanting to make sure.

But you also need a mechanism for getting there. So VeeDDzz' twin brother will probably evolve through evolution, thus being unlikely to have any of the dicks on the forehead Tooth suggested. So the "hells" we are talking about will be diluted, like the "hells" of our evolution.

No such as thing as afraid of the truth here. And yes it is plain and simple that it is often human stupidity and when it isnt its time to learn from it.

With science you can design technology that makes it impossible for a house to burn down like they do today and kill families. Plus with technology you have more families today than ever before and less fraction of them suffer for lack of food than back in the distant past.

A vastly higher intelligence is also vastly higher ethical. As i have explained before it is to their interest to preserve us without conflicts and intervene only when we are careless and stupid. We and life in general are their hedge against their own unpredictable singularity future. Life has proved very stable in the range of billions of years unlike AI. So it is wise to be very careful for it in terms of radical decisions.

It is more important to super advanced AI to protect us than it is to us lol! As it is humans are mfing idiots in terms of protecting themselves with the bs we see out there ! I have no problems if superior AI kicks some butt either where earned!

If AI fails we will recover it for example! We are its existential defense!

The correct move for super advanced AI is to proliferate life a lot more than on earth! It secures its own long term existence and recovery from any collapse.

If we were not morons we would conclude easily that the best choice is to quickly go to other planets and make it hard for complexity to collapse because of some bs cosmic accident. And that we are best served by protecting as many other life forms as possible.

No.

The number of entities defined as me is smaller, yet infinite.
The number of entities defined as the cells that comprise me is larger, yet also infinite.

Seriously now there are n/log(n) primes up to n roughly. Primes over 5 end in 1,3,7,9.

One can almost certainly argue properly that over 20% of primes end in 9 (and likely near 25% in the deep future) which numerically can be verified in the trillions of primes tested.

So of course you can talk about a fraction of infinity of primes ie 25% of it are ending in 9!

You can have infinities that never repeat themselves such as digits of pi never repeating the previous digits up to that point.

All i have to do is add in every new universe a little bit more atoms and the entire system will have different development making it exceptionally hard to repeat.

What you need for repeats is the same identical world repeated infinite times (or extended exactly like this endlessly out) and then yes it can happen to be the same eventually but you better believe it you are gonna still need some amazingly huge number to get there. Like a number you havent even seen before be so big, a number big enough to bring to question the very stupidly simplistic assumptions used to derive it.

Forget the bs Tegmark (yes 90% of top names talk bs often mixed with decent physics of course because they are all about making mega names for themselves and abusing scientific accuracy and conviction in the name of sensationalism and more papers) is talking about your double copy being 10^(10^28) meters from here in the absence of any evidence about infinite universes and the certainty the same laws of physics or constants or initial conditions in such vast distances that are unthinkable and subject also to all kinds of unknown new physics violations of the logic needed to argue for this like that so clearly in confidence.


But just to make VeeDDzz happy (who i have confidence will come around back to healthy science eventually) have fun with what passes as science often and it definitely isnt because it never successfully proves its claims without arrogantly massively simplistic assumptions.

http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/PD...erse_sciam.pdf (at least use only what is worthy in this and not 100% of it)

Oops, quite a big number!

This is ridiculous on many levels. Wishful thinking and myopic thinking run amok. We have no idea how AIs will turn out, and a large number of states/goals/evolutionary outcomes involve the destruction of humans or this planet for habitable life.
Yes. Perhaps the greatest example of being a "mfing idiot" in terms of protecting ourselves is thinking you know how something as advanced and unknowable as AI is going to behave.

This is just absurd. I mean I see and appreciate your reasoning, but you seem unable to realize that there is absolutely no concrete reason that an AI would think this way or take this path. Given that humans are by far an AI's largest existential threat, it's much better in term of its chance of continued existence if it wipes us out. Against this you pit the vanishingly small possibility that an AI will fail and need to be recreated. That implies:
a) An AI will care about AI in general, and not its specific implementation
b) This is a better way to survive that creating clones of itself or a rich AI ecosystem, using all of earth's resources
c) An AI will put those things it cares about above other goals (resource acquisition, elimination of threats.
d) If it does care about continued existence, that keeping humans around represents less of a threat than a situation that would require humans to be around to rebuild an AI.

You require a large number of assumption for your scenario to be true. I (saying that AI is possible serious threat) require a far smaller number of assumptions.

I think the easiest way to express it is:

"We'll be ****ed, and we'll like it"

Hi, I'm playnde 10^1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 metres away

One of the big buts: what's the probability of life?

For getting plaaynde and meters, going down the big history:
Hi there 10^10 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 000000000 meters away!

Non-specialized infinity just occurred for actually the infinity that is generally acceptable for contemplation.

Timed out: After just a century the history diverges!

We need even bigger numbers!

Exasperated exalting is a weird thing. Really understanding all the math which happens is included in an accessible infinity is key to overcome the struggle of what about the math.