Twoness is far more wacky than oneness.

So you're a follower of Eastern mythology (not philosophy, mythology)? That's surprising, I might have to downgrade my assessment of your intelligence. I know you follow Watts (who is a stone cold moron), but I thought it was more something you were playing with than taking seriously.

Or is your objection more sophisticated? You don't really believe that "the oneness" is a real thing, you just believe that criticizing/deconstructing it is a bad thing?

You know nothing about oneness, but know everything about oneness?

I have experienced the fruits of introspection, quieting your mind, letting go of emotion and desire, many times. I have experienced the addictive rush of power and the delusion of insight this brings. I've seen how emotions and desires and looking back and forward cloud judgment and thought. Any moron can do that, which is why so many morons are Buddhists. My 13 year old self wasn't much different to Veedz.

However, I had the minimum working brain cells required to not stop there, and realize that taking "the oneness" beyond its psychological bounds, as Eastern religions do, is also an illusion. If you abstract one more level above the mind-quieting, you see how it all works. Eastern brains seem to have gotten stuck at the "oneness" though, just like Middle Eastern minds got stuck at the all powerful dad-figure (arguably less advanced, but probably more connected to the world).

Again, I refer you to the choices I offered:

Both basic and advanced epistemology leads you to "lol oneness".

You can't even access where those "morons" experience oneness.

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People get all upset when you call their grandiose delusions of power and insight, delusions. But they are. Realize that, and get closer to the oneness, or stay stuck where you are, in your petty delusions.

Religion tends to occur at the boundary where cognitive abilities and knowledge meet the unknown. Asians were smart enough to not believe in granddaddies in the sky, but not smart enough to to avoid granddaddies within.

It is is what it is. None of you who've fallen into this trap have the cognitive or emotional ability to escape it, any more than Christians can escape their "feeling" of the truth of the granddaddy in the sky. Hilariously, it's the same kind of trap.

It's funny you think your derision is meaningful.

Of course it's not meaningful. Any more than I can convince a Christian their sky-daddy isn't real. You're deeply deluded, and that delusion gives you the feeling that you have power. Petty people with no power hang onto even imaginary power as tightly as they can. It's human nature.

However, I do enjoy telling people the truth in a way that offends their sensibilities, such that they believe even more strongly in what they believed before. There's no greater ownage of an opponent than to give them a large gift and have them refuse it because they're offended. It's high comedy.

Thanks for participating.

Look at you saying you know "truth" and can sense "delusions" Funnily, that's your delusion we here can see since you just spill the beans about it like a toddler filling a diaper.

I agree, that's why I said that I believe "non-knowing" and "surrender/letting go" is the key to truth (real wisdom and power).

I don't have any special insight. What I post is obvious to people with a working mind, like the obviousness of evolution or the fact that Christian myths are hilariously false.

As for posting reasoning, it's called discussion. Your modus operandi seems to consist of one or two sentence trolling. You seem afraid to post any reasoning, instead repeating mantras like a religious person. Your choice, but it's SMP, not OOT.

I'm not under the delusion you have shown- I treat people like individuals and don't go around sharing a diaper full of "truth".

Christian myths are false (agreed)... but does it make them meaningless?
Are all novels, poems and songs meaningless just because they are "false" (not historical facts)?
Symbolism can't reveal any deeper insight?

Agree. Deep down a lot of Christians must know it's metaphors.

Problem is the metaphors are largely flawed. One of the many flaws we have. But I like the idea of reducing flaws.

Anyhow: Love exists, God doesn't.

Christianity without the strict dogmatic bs and fairy tales is the religion to have if you have to have any religion in my opinion. In its original form its the most ethical and forgiving (of course morons later did all the bs including burning libraries and monuments and destroying people, holding science back etc). It is easier to go from there to science without any weak concepts holding you back and still a desire to recover ethics rationally and even improve on them. Science is the way to wisdom and anything else is less likely to get you there as fast if ever. Only science cares for the truth and not any bs ego when properly exercised.

Yes one can add Buddhism etc but i say no, keep its simple without a lot of weak bs such as concepts of nirvana, meditation, eternal fasting, irrational approach to peace (there is such thing as a good war even if you try to avoid it you must know when its time to not yield on important principles), etc. Keep it real recognizing the human condition but also the great things that can improve it and use your mind in endless pursuit of more wisdom and you will be happy and balanced. Ancient Greeks had it right basically (wisdom is virtue) but were a little unethical at times too and Christianity screwed it up often but added some love and empathy to it and if you combine the best of both you get to science easily.

As a footnote I'm lying in a Greek bed right now, going home in a few hours. Somehow it feels everything isn't lost here since the philosophers. It must have something to do with the islands, giving less possibilities for the marching warlords, but still easy exchanging of ideas.

That's rather buddhist of you as I see it.

See the imaginative side of whatever part of whichever religion is around can look either weak or strong- but as practice for an inner-condition when you don't do it how would you know?

That is very nice to hear plaaynde. There are still many good people and places that the crisis hasn't destroyed. All you have to do is look around in nature and local resources and people that in principle could get together and do good things and then you are left asking what on earth is really a crisis but a stupid artificial condition because of the inability to focus on the truly important left divided and depressed instead of motivated and energized to do things right learning from all mistakes and treasonous choices of the past. The nature out there is still waiting for you to recognize all can be great.




From my parents' summer garden.

The leaves make excellent dolmadakia too



https://thehellenicdeli.com/dolmadakia

I can know by studying details that make limited sense because better alternatives exist. For example Karma is not a real dependable thing even if it may statistically appear that way sometimes. Nirvana is definitely a lot easier to happen with science and better understanding of the world that meditation or fasting. That doesn't mean there arent great things in Buddhism too. It is meant to imply that only a moron that is Christian changes to other religion and not directly to scientific reasoning because the core values of Christianity minus the fairy tales are some of the most refined ethical positions seen anywhere. So go to science not to Buddhism if you want to improve on it.

I see that it's fairly individual situation and is made simpler by noticing that dogma is easy to seem global, but it is really rather local. Going along with simple while observation happens.

To celebrate the power of the individual human spirit...


To boldly go where no human has gone before...


May the dream outlive a thousand deaths and gain strength from the smiles of the immortal dead.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryam_Mirzakhani

To call meditation "bs" may be the pinnacle of idiocy.

And which principles are more important than peace and compassion?

RIP

Survival, including the survival of good ideas. You agree with this, or you would commit suicide. The computer you use involved the needless death and torture of animals. You could chose not to use, but you prefer to cause intense suffering so that you can post on the Internet. The meals you eat involve the death and torture of animals - creatures which can feel, know and to some extent think. They suffer often in extremely cruel ways, for example the mass slow poisoning of small mammals around crops and grain stores.

You yourself are not compassionate as long as you choose to eat rather than starve to death.