If I were younger I'd be a prepper. Mountain strong-hold, guns, food. I really don't want to learn how to cut up a deer, though, so I'm glad that I'll be done w/ this nightmare before it gets worse.

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Weed and cheap booze already involved . Direct to screens is where the actions everyone says isn't real happens. So why wouldn't we keep adapting anyway? Fatalism and self-fulling doom prophecy are more dangerous than robots and asteroids combined?

Sign me up.

Those empty dress-up shops; just the thing to start investing in now.

Absolutely. You only need 51% for that. There will always be people trying to do something. I can picture myself giving it a go in the future for say ten years. Fixing some stuff all by myself.

In reality though I will have checked out before that stage. Now we still have job and retirement careers.

They will be drinking beer, playing poker, and banging AI Robot Chicks at Zeno's Bar and Brothel on the Moon. And Opening for Christmas 2035, on Ceres, Zeno's Fantasy Land - Full Brain Plug in and Play - Music to Sex, The Alpha and Omega of pleasurable existence. All at the touch of your finger. Or any other appendage.

Well, now that you put it that way..................

Zeno you need to solve this little gravity problem first. No fun doing any of these in little to no gravity. So you need the MdZ rotating supercolony plan first. We can build it with ceres and moon rock (5 in each location with plenty of water from ceres there) and make it 100x better than mainland US is today.


The aim of scientific society is to reach a state where no work is needed unless its motivating to the individual and is used to further improve their ability to enjoy benefits in terms of experiences above those of the avg population that are still however an increasing function of time.

To get there of course AI will have to play a big role and it is in fact precisely because of AI that scientific society will become possible and super desirable. Only systems today that are self sufficient and use technology and science in their design will serve as prototype for this model. Of course initially there will be plenty of jobs for over 6-7h per day but they will bring substantial security and advantages. The majority of jobs are used to improve the system and sustain its structure not to fight each other in endless friction. Competition is useful and necessary not wasteful there. A great deal of jobs today serve the purpose to destroy other companies and people or enslave them to endless life cycles of no progress addiction and misery.

There will never be a robot apocalypse only a wiser better designed world. People that are very well educated from a very young age can find lots of fun things to do endlessly. You can make entertainment a big business and education an even bigger business.

The home of the future is all AI. Who will design, optimize, build and maintain all these homes until more evolved robotic AI can do all of it? Endless jobs until then and endless fun afterwards. Endless opportunity for more AI assisted agriculture too. Endless service jobs to maintain the giant infrastructure until robotic AI can take over.

I can have fun all day doing only things i like and can help society. Less work more quality work and more quality entertainment.

Super deep education is the secret to it all. It has to be designed in a way that is easy to obtain and fun with superb incentives all the way. the more educated one is the more rational they get and they can imagine all kinds of activities that are motivating.

This is you being silly. There will be far more transport, not less, when we have pods instead of cars. And there'll be monthly plans just like there are for cable, buses, electricity, etc.

You realize that driving anywhere costs money,right? You either put down tens of thousands in cash up front or pay $500+/month in car loans (plus gas and service costs). Who wouldn't take a $200/month pod subscription instead???

Autonomous cars are like the worst thing to mention, it's all 100% positive.

This has to be some subtle trolling.

Society will simply restructure a little and own shares in the corporations, whose dividends provide basic income.
Yeah, reasonable chance of extinction, no question. I'd feel a lot better about if we weren't dumb enough to to let a nasty racist dictatorial uncivilized country (who believe that they have the right to rule the world), with old scores to settle, steal all of our technology.

I mention what I think will happen w/ cars bec that's what everyone is familiar with. That there will be package plans is obvious but who's going to buy the plan that takes them on a long distance trip on an Interstate unless they do it regularly? They will get the 'get around town' plan and figure that they will still be able to afford the trip to the B&B but when it comes time to actually do it they can't be relied upon to spend the money. How about the long haul truckers? I believe that most live in rural areas and certainly all of the independent owner operators. When that's no longer a profession the rural areas lose even more income.

But the above is only a small part of it bec the Tech people will never stop until they've made machines to do everything.

As far as societal change, what you suggest sounds a lot like socialism which is anathema to to many ideologues to be adopted before it's too late. Government will try everything else first but no amount of education/training is going to supply persons of average intelligence w/ a job that give them even a lower middle class wage.

But, really, it's the last part that really concerns me and the WEF as well, however little you think of them. How many volumes would it take to write the epic 'Humans acting badly: A history.' We see it starting already and it'll just get worse.

ETA: Basic income ----------> charitable donations: down. Going to a major league sporting event that costs such a holy fortune I'm surprised that anybody brings a family: down. Red Lobster might as well close tomorrow (ok, that's an lol, they can wait a few years) and if I were Warren Buffet I'd sell Geico Insurance tomorrow while it's still worth something (and that ones not a joke). The list goes on forever and includes every. single. thing. that relies on massive amounts of disposable income bec it's simply not going to be there.

I'm curious to know what you think happens after this because I think this is likely to happen as well.

It's unclear how much we'll use transportation in the future unless you count the digital payloads of the www. Then it's a lock.