The link i wanted to make was many went basically crazy flip flopping between what they proved absolutely wrong and what they were convinced was true.

this universal truth would show why that would happen

Cantor couldn't prove or disprove the continuum hypothesis which was what drove him crazy according to that documentary (I don't buy that FWIW) not that he proved something absolutely wrong.

I don't think Gödel was extremly shocked by his findings and I'm pretty sure that Turing wasn't shocked at all by his findings given Gödel. I also don't think Gödel's starving issue was causaly related to his most profound insights.

Turing was driven into suicide by his government that had pretty much nothing to do with his work.

I think the better link is "infinity and limitations of knowledge" and that's why I would include Cohen.
Basically Cantor-Gödel-Cohen is the "continuum theme". Gödel proved that the negation of CH cannot be proven ins set theory, Cohen proved that the CH cannot be proven in set theory...mathematicians please correct me if I spout nonsense here.
Chaitin and the Omega number is also an interesting follow up to Gödel/Turing and should be included but I guess he could be left out.

What is really fascinating about the Cantor-Gödel-Turing-Cohen chain imo is that they all had to invent new procedures to do their work. Diagonalization, Gödel numbering, the universal Turing machine, forcing. (and I guess lambda calculus if you include Church which I admittedly don't know much about). I think that would make for a much better overall theme than circumstances of death.

The one thing I really liked about that documentary was the shots of Gödel's scetchbook when he worked on normal stuff and when he worked on the continuum hypothesis. I tried to find that in image form via Google but no dice, maybe someone with better search skills can find it for me

I'll have to look some up to understand exactly all your talking about but doesn't Nash fit into this. I think his solution outlined in his 'hot blonde' example in 'A beautiful mind' is the solution for the world. He was 'driven mad' wasn't he.

Also there was a book on fractals and chaos theory i read can't remember the authors (friedman? feinman?), but the book was kind of about someone who kept thinking they could find a pattern to fractals and then proving that you can't...

apologies if i use mathematician and physicist incorrectly...these divisions are harder for me to see

Any master in any thing will eventually lead you to their same conclusion

Sanity check. How does controlling ones reality fit with experience? (Have not read whole thread)

I tend to view experience as the key to our reality. So stuff like reason, logic and science is all about manipulating models based from our experience with an eye to improving the quality of our future experiences. As I see there is not really anything else. Truth outside of experience does not really mean anything.

Of course our experience could be wrong in some sense. Ether matrix style or just a dream. But I don't see how that is relevant. If we see outside the box, take a pill or wake up fine everything changes, but that does not alter what happens before that.

Not exactly sure I know what you are saying but I think possibly you are bringing up the same point most others did and I re explained it to them on their terms. If you're asking the same thing as them you should skim the thread and you may find an explanation (although you may still not agree).

Reality is the key, but it has to be reality without perception, without the mind acting upon that reality to change it. This was called 'choiceless awareness'.

But again maybe you just need to clarify and we already agree, wasn't quite sure.

And if i am 'correct' then the definition of what 'happened' changes.

Seems correct; it's true to you then, though only to you, e.g. I can believe that I am God, and that is then so, true to me. It won't change the universal truth, that's out there, but as long as we can have an opinion about it, it's tricky.