Originally Posted by VP$IP
So convicted 1st degree murderers (with 0% chance of wrongful conviction) should be treated with dignity, compassion, and respect. They should just be kept out of society.
How about pizza delivery, high-speed internet, and conjugal visits?
"Distrust those in whom the instinct to punish is strong." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche
Providing the money comes from a verifiable source (e.g., it was theirs when they were convicted, they earned it working in prison, or a third party gave it to them), and assuming a pizza place will deliver to a penal institution, why shouldn't they have these things ?
The death penalty never lowered murder rates. This being the case, I doubt seriously whether the availability of pizza, hi-speed internet, and sex would cause rates to rise. I can't picture anyone being so fearful of having to endure the the bleak life of prison that he opts not to commit a murder suddenly changing his mind due to the knowledge that if convicted he can still get pizza, pussy and 2+2."
As such, the only reason to deny him these items is to inflict punishment, and while it may be fashionable to use prison in this manner, no civilized nation of enlightened men would ever do so (In other words, the U.S. does not apply). Prison serves the function of segregating those who cannot live in civilized society from those who can and do, Rehabilitation, though an admirable goal, isn't why we send them there - nor should it be (nor should it be forced upon unwilling inmates).
Killers are in prison because the jurisdiction in which they committed their crime has decided that their behavior was so far from reasonable that segregation from other members of society is required, not to be rehabilitated and not to serve as a lesson to the next guy out there contemplating similar action.
Note: I'm fine with the idea of withholding his luxuries if his behavior falls below some agreed upon level, though knowing he'd lose his toys might be enough to keep his behavior in check. It might also reduce violence in prisons.
Every time I see some imbecile voice his support for one or another atrocity to be used against prisoners I cringe – not due to a weak stomach, but because of my awareness that there's one more person who can't see past the nose on his face. I can, as in, not really, understand the urge for a little vengeance, but isn't a huge slice of his life spent in a cage vengeance enough ? (Note: I am NOT calling you an imbecile; you are someone with whom I disagree – and for all I know, on no other topic in the world besides this one)
By the way, while most murderers will only leave prison in a box, most other inmates will be getting out, at which point one could easily end up living next door to me. (Yeah, my neighborhood IS that bad) As such, I'd like him to be as close to a human being as possible.
You might consider saving your blood lust for the poker table where it'll serve you well, as opposed to areas in which it can easily cause trouble. Or just get a couple of cats. There's nothing in the world more satisfying or relaxing than placing tabby into orbit.
P.S. I'd hit it. If she ever delivers a pizza to me ahma let her keep the whole buck.