big starling population in Rome. Important to bring up a lot because you get to use the word murmuration
Nice find of the proper original video. Nice to see a rational explanation emerging too. That by becoming a group you give the predator a variable size and direction target that is not really a true target as it is emergent and changing and not real at the detail level of the predator's own size where the target collapses to individuals. The predator sees the emergent target not the thousand small ones anymore. So it cant focus on one and if it does it probably quickly loses it by the group interfering. Cooperation increases survival. Game theory in action.
The scattering probability if you tried to attack the group in a straight dive path to its perceived center is probably tiny also and it collapses by the time you are there as they spread in all directions opening a void where the blind rage path was taking the predator.
Have to feel for the poor falcon, water water everywhere and not a drop to drink.
Does it switch to other prey or does it starve endlessly chasing the obvious feast? Or does it catch a few starlings even though it misses out a fair bit as well?
Probably he/she just needs more time and patience and its a numbers game of repeated efforts. At some point some bird will be alone or move alone out of the group or falcon wont lose focus in a dive. We need to observe for a few hours to see what happens.
Maybe after 10 more times? All they need is to win once a day or twice.
Its hard against Charlie's pigeons too.
Its like playing poker in a table of 9 that all never fold (only later post flop and still not all of course) and they like to see flops nomatter what and on top of that they never reraise each other so they all stay there after a raise or reraise you made, always calling your raises with wide ranges so you cant bluff them or do squeeze plays etc and at flop you have 5-6 people and of course you cant go anywhere without a top hand even if you had AA its risky now to bet strong.
But with patience you find out you can still win and in fact even more than the more standard games. Just increase patience. In that game you will not be winning more that 1 in 10-20 hands if you care not to have also huge losses often by fighting idiots that catch miracles with their garbage but you will be making a killing when you do get it because of course they will pay you and they will make your draws to top hands very lucrative. So maybe the falcon has trained to not care for failure only for persistence, exactly like any true predator should, tilt free.
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The glory of sensible priorities 2+2 has become in the hands of politics related moderators. Gossip and politics rules all other forums now where it comes to banning people.
Now spanktehbadwookie is banned for 3-4 months. Because its so hard if you have a problem to ban a person for a week and then once they redo it one more week etc (if what they are doing is so terribly irritating, and what exactly is that here, he didnt insult, harass or accuse anyone of terrible unproven things or make any threats or heavily trolled a community and others, left unchecked, do these things every bloody day over there in Politics forums). You have to go vertical and vindictive like that on spanktehbadwookie who never gave a reason here in SMP for example. What community of sensible moderators that have it all under control are we experiencing here?
Just to see my point over something so seemingly unimportant even; We had a rather interesting nature related educational talk (on starlings and their migration and social patterns of behavior and their predators like falcons) because of a scene spanktehbadwookie shared over this weekend from his home (and there is nothing negative about his posts in SMP by the way to deserve banning). None of these matters to the politics people of course. We will just lose another person here. Just because they dont like what they have going there from some people who dare to protest the very negative hostile aggressive style of the community and of course tolerate 100x more terrible things that undermine concepts of free speech by others. One less person to cause a constructive exchange of posts here. But lets allow happily all those that say nasty things about other people instead of debating their ideas and who throw insults, troll and overall generate perverse unkind behavior left and right. Excellent job guys.
Dear sirs Mat Skalnsky, David Sklansky and Mason Malmuth please reclaim back your site from the intolerant mod people that are running it to the ground with their distorted ideas of what is supposed to be a civil conversation and exchange of ideas .
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It's not like hugging a tree is brain surgery. It's more like rocket science. That's why I'm always careful around the O-rings. I've discovered they can give my **** a rash.
That sounds somewhat poetic, laden with disastrous potential. I wanna wet my feet sideways at a La Grange point. Definitely with vanilla-cinnamon fudge made out of Quebec syrup. The old sources are stilled.
I remember that old cheese tip from way back when. I miss those RGB feeds that had their own channel. The Gardiner still has that old-school pink Inglis sign. That smell of burnt "sugar" as you came off the DVP, aye, Dad? Hmph.
Ironically, I learned of Tupac's death thru one (was up Elliot Lake just wandering around with a brother my family and I took in the previous year) and decided to thumb my way to the utter western end of Canada (aka Tofino) so...
It's nice to meet you, by the way, humanity. I and I are Xibalba.
Spring came earlier this year hahaha. What happened? Wisdom prevailed?
Credit due to Mat. Wise and reasonable. Has power to change season and make whole forums disappear. I even saw shooting stars the other night, however don't let me fool you, that was predictable.
Welcome back to 2+2 Spank. Maybe one day a more welcoming politics forum will emerge.
Cheers.
Cheers indeed, friend.
Receiving a political ban without having many of the ideas I argued and offered even being addressed by most critics is a major political and philosophical success, from at least one perspective. Rejoice and carry on.
Used oil, gasoline, diesel, (my 'lighter fluid') old rotten wood cabinet, pitchy wood not good for stove, various house and shop trash, old rusty metal, sundry plywood pieces and lots and lots of brush piled high. I love an old fashion bonfire and I'm doing one today. My contribution to making this world that much better.
Oysters and Beer; Beer and Oysters - I love both. And just visited this place in Portland, Oregon. Five gooey oyster stars for this place. I got a half-dozen sampler of different oysters from Washington and Oregon. Washed down with a local pale ale. Yummy!