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how would it be possible for a book 4000 years old to accurately describe radiation poisoning ? how would it be possible for a book 4000 years old to accurately describe radiation poisoning ?

03-16-2024 , 07:05 PM
The Mahabharata

accurately describes radiation poisoning from nuclear war. How is this possible?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurukshetra_War
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03-16-2024 , 08:27 PM
Not gonna read all that; can you provide specific quotes?

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03-16-2024 , 11:30 PM
Enormous blasts “more brilliant than a thousand suns” were recorded, just as cadavers consumed to the point that they were unrecognizable. There were likewise numerous different sections fitting the cutting edge portrayal of an atomic assault.

As indicated by this legend, the individuals who endure the disaster lost their hair and fingernails a short time later, while nourishment supplies were polluted—this all matches our comprehension of the impacts of radiation harming and radioactive defilement in the fallout of a nuclear blast.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...y-years-prior/
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03-17-2024 , 07:36 PM
They had the TV show on back in the day, probably all 94 episodes of it, not that I watched it. Better that, though, than the wall-to-wall garbage that's on now.

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03-17-2024 , 11:15 PM
what has symptoms similar to radiation poisoning, and could've actually occurred 4000 years ago?
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03-18-2024 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth Sagebrush
what has symptoms similar to radiation poisoning, and could've actually occurred 4000 years ago?
have you read the texts? they discuss flying vehicles shooting missiles at one another.

https://www.gaia.com/article/do-hind...-a-nuclear-war

Explosions that level everything, animals screaming and engulfed in flames, pregnant women’s babies dying and metal armor melting onto the skins of warriors who wear them, all sound like the result of nuclear blast. It mentions birds falling from the sky, due to a single projectile charged with all the power of the universe, as bright as a thousand suns.

https://ancientastronautarchive.com/...nowledge-base/


A large quantity of these descriptions are in the context of wars between gods. Incredibly, there are detailed descriptions of advanced technologies beyond simple flying machines; spanning from cloaking devices to nuclear weaponry. These conflicts will be addressed in a later section. For now, here are a few examples of references to vimanas in the epic:

“When the Daityas were being slaughtered they again took to their vimana and, employing the Danava science, flew up into the sky . . . I (Arjuna) assaulted their vimana . . . Wounded by the flight of deadly-accurate iron missiles, the Asura vimana fell broken to the earth . . . Matali swiftly descended earthward, as in a steep dive, on our divinely effulgent car.”
“Karna took up that fierce weapon, which resembled the tongue of the Destroyer or the Sister of Death. That terrible and effulgent dart, Naikartana, was hurled at the Rakshasa. Beholding that excellent and blazing weapon . . . the Rakshasa began to fly away in fear . . . Destroying that blazing illusion of Ghatotkacha and piercing right through his breast that resplendent dart soared aloft in the night . . . Ghatotkacha, then uttering diverse roars, fell, deprived of life by the dart of Sakra.”

“The vimana had all necessary equipment. It could not be conquered by the gods or demons. And it radiated light and reverberated with a deep rumbling sound. Its beauty captivated the minds of all who beheld it. Visvakarma, the lord of its design and construction, had created it by the power of his austerities, and its outline, like that of the sun, could not be easily delineated.”

“And he also gave [unto Arjuna] a car furnished with celestial weapons whose banner bore a large ape . . . And its splendour, like that of the Sun, was so great that no one could gaze at it. It was the very car riding upon which the lord Soma had vanquished the Danavas. Resplendent with beauty, it looked like an evening cloud reflecting the effulgence of the setting Sun.”

“Bhima flew along in his car, resplendent as the sun and loud as thunder . . . The flying chariot shone like a flame in the night sky of summer . . . it swept by like a comet . . . It was if two suns were shining. Then the chariot rose up and all the heavens brightened.”

• “And on this sunlike, divine, wonderful chariot the wise disciple of Kuru flew joyously upward. When becoming invisible to the mortals who walk the earth, he saw wondrous airborne chariots by the thousands.”
“And the celebrated Arjuna, having passed through successive regions of the heavens, at last beheld the city of Indra. And there he beheld celestial cars by thousands stationed in their respective places [an airport?] and capable of going everywhere at will, and he saw tens of thousands of such cars moving in every direction.”

“And having vanquished his foe, Krishna furnished with weapons and unwounded and accompanied by the kings, came out of Girivraja riding on that celestial car . . . upon that car Krishna now came out of the hill-fort. Possessed of the splendour of heated gold, and decked with rows of jingling bells . . . always slaughtering the foe against whom it was driven, it was the very car riding upon which Indra had slain ninety-nine Asuras of old.”

“And thereupon that best of cars became still more dazzling with its splendour and was incapable of being looked at by created beings, as the midday sun surrounded by a thousand rays . . . And Achyuta, that tiger among men, riding with the two sons of Pandu upon that celestial car . . . coming out of Girivraja, stopped (for some time) on a level plain outside of town.”

“We beheld in the sky what appeared to us to be a mass of scarlet cloud resembling the fierce flames of a blazing fire. From that mass many blazing missiles flashed, and tremendous roars, like the noise of a thousand drums beaten at once. And from it fell many weapons winged with gold and thousands of thunderbolts, with loud explosions, and many hundreds of fiery wheels. Loud became the uproar of falling horses, slain by these missiles, and of mighty elephants struck by the explosions . . . Those terrible Rakshasas had the shape of large mounds stationed in the sky.”[8]

[3rd century BCE] Ashoka Maurya (304–232 BCE), also as Ashoka the Great, was an Indian emperor of the Maurya Dynasty who ruled almost all of the Indian subcontinent from circa 269 BCE to 232 BCE.[9] Ashoka started the “Secret Society of the Nine Unknown Men” comprised of great Indian scientists. According to the French occult author Louis Jacolliot, “Asoka’s scientists experimented with techniques that were supposed to be unknown 2,000 years ago. The society of the Nine studied the liberation of energy, sterilization by radiation and psychological warfare, all subjects that our modern civilization have ‘discovered’ just recently.”[10]
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03-19-2024 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Sagebrush
what has symptoms similar to radiation poisoning, and could've actually occurred 4000 years ago?
I give, what?
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03-22-2024 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I give, what?
meteor impact.


but those dont come with books talking about people flying around in metal chariots shooting metal missiles at one another
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03-23-2024 , 11:26 AM
Yeah I don't know. Humans have a lot of imagination, so I wouldn't get too worked up about ancient prophecies consistent with radiation sickness.

Other than that, if this came about because of some ancient advanced civilization meddling with nuclear technology at the size you need to make nukes, we should see the remnants (i.e. the nuclear waste). As we know, this stuff sticks around for a long time. So if you look for an unconventional explanation, I would go for time travel.
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03-24-2024 , 11:52 PM
Trivial point: The book is not 4000 years old, which would make it one of the oldest surviving pieces of literature in history. It'a widely agreed to be a 2000 year old book that describes events internal readings suggest may have occurred 4000 years ago. So your question is akin to asking how Star Wars could describe things like lasers and space ships "A Long Time Ago" because that's when the movie itself tells us the events take place.

Main Point: Obviously 2000 vs 4000 doesn't make much difference for youe exact question. Obviously the descriptions seem vague enough that nobody has used it (or afaik) any text from the ancient world to predict something like radiation sickness. So I'm much more inclined to believe people are creative and imaginative enough story tellers to tell fantastic tales that occasionally vaguely line up with something real.

Especially when the other option is humans witnessed nuclear war and flying machines 4000 years ago that didn't leave any physical evidence and inexplicably waited 2000 years to write these stories down despite the presence of advanced language and surviving texts of other things they did bother to write down.
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03-27-2024 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
Yeah I don't know. Humans have a lot of imagination, so I wouldn't get too worked up about ancient prophecies consistent with radiation sickness.

Other than that, if this came about because of some ancient advanced civilization meddling with nuclear technology at the size you need to make nukes, we should see the remnants (i.e. the nuclear waste). As we know, this stuff sticks around for a long time. So if you look for an unconventional explanation, I would go for time travel.
Dimension travel or aliens made most sense to me
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03-27-2024 , 06:31 PM
Time travel is just a special form of dimension travel, where one dimension is behind in time.

Aliens, it's possible I guess; but it's such a throwaway explanation. What can't you explain with aliens?

Last edited by Morphismus; 03-27-2024 at 06:37 PM.
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03-28-2024 , 12:19 AM
Aliens are actually pretty bad at explaining things.
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04-03-2024 , 05:43 PM
Fascinating as it is to suggest antiquity accessed nuclear arms via an alien race... perhaps more interesting is to contextualise this as historical record and see if there are other historical sources that can support this narrative. It turns out there is, and this has been done, by Velikovsky in worlds in collision and his other works, scholarly work of the highest order. He puts the "collision" (electrical interaction) of Venus with Earth around 1500 BC. The dating required a separate book, ages in chaos, that corrected and reset the timelines of the Egyptian kingdoms. I cannot recall the exact refs relevant to the mahabharata, there are dozens and dozens of scriptures cited.
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04-03-2024 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 1&onlybillyshears
Fascinating as it is to suggest antiquity accessed nuclear arms via an alien race... perhaps more interesting is to contextualise this as historical record and see if there are other historical sources that can support this narrative. It turns out there is, and this has been done, by Velikovsky in worlds in collision and his other works, scholarly work of the highest order. He puts the "collision" (electrical interaction) of Venus with Earth around 1500 BC. The dating required a separate book, ages in chaos, that corrected and reset the timelines of the Egyptian kingdoms. I cannot recall the exact refs relevant to the mahabharata, there are dozens and dozens of scriptures cited.
That is exactly what an alien would say.
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04-07-2024 , 04:40 PM
I believe They were off their tits on mushrooms and wrote an epic science fiction novel. Though the Gita is from this epic which is totally true. So you be the judge
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04-09-2024 , 02:10 PM
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