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Old 05-01-2017, 01:20 AM   #76
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Homosexuality seems to be inevitable... I agree with not promoting it...
I am fairly sure that no one is successfully promoting homosexuality. At best, the more enlightened view is to not give a damn what sexual orientation a person is. It is pretty much the same as an enlightened view of gingers and southpaws.

It doesn't seem like there is any great risk that it will be promoted in the future. More than anything, it will (hopefully) just be an issue of who one should be flirting with. It isn't like there are any public health officials that are promoting anything more than using condoms, developing close interpersonal ties and not doing any raping.
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Can the children of gays ignore their parents way of life?

Smart females will realize men offer skenes/prostate stimulation combined with clitoral mechanics and that a mans face from the cunnilingus angle is only a bigger verson of a womans while a stronger lower face tends to indicate a larger penis, keep in mind men have stronger more precise tongues

Sadly many men believe women dont want them because they arent 'tough’ enough while the women turn around and go for other women, most women want a nonconfrontational disciplined man capable of protecting them
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I am fairly sure that no one is successfully promoting homosexuality.
You know, you act like you know things, but when you scratch beneath the surface, you have no clue what you're talking about. The gay/gender doesn't exist agenda is being actively promoted to children in a number of jurisdictions. Rates of homosexual activity among the young have risen greatly in the last couple of decades.

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At best, the more enlightened view is to not give a damn what sexual orientation a person is.
Why is this more enlightened? I mean, I share your view that we shouldn't a damn about what sexual a particular person is, but doesn't mean there aren't social policy questions around homosexuality. Again, your view of this matter seems informed by ignorance of what's actually going on in the real world.

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It doesn't seem like there is any great risk that it will be promoted in the future. More than anything, it will (hopefully) just be an issue of who one should be flirting with. It isn't like there are any public health officials that are promoting anything more than using condoms, developing close interpersonal ties and not doing any raping.
You're deeply ignorant, unfortunately. There are NAMBLA supporters running sexual education courses for children in which homosexuality is pushed as desirable and normal and something to explore and experiment with, which causes an increase in homosexual behavior (we're seeing this already). Gender fluidity and choosing one's gender is taught to 10 year olds in many school districts, which causes confusion and encourages the development rather than the healing or passing of dysfunctional dysmorphias. Prepubescent children that feel like they are the opposite gender at say age 10, are often put on hormones by doctors and parents that suppress their sexual development; never mind that this is a radical intervention and that 80% grow out of it and grow up to live normal lives without this radical intervention. There is a major public health debate about this at the moment among doctors and psychologists. Real lives are affected.

The question of whether, for example, trans people with gender dysmorphia have a disorder, is an important one. Trans people obviously have a disorder, and I think most people agree; the trans lobby has nowhere the power and repetition and hate speech of the gay lobby, that has succeeded in turning young sheep like Veedz and boganomics into closed-minded bigots.

So the questions matter whether or not you want to stick your head in the sand. They matter to public policy, they matter to the decisions people will make on behalf of children, they matter in terms of the harm that promoting a homosexual and trans lifestyle as normal will do, both to individuals and society.

This is not hypothetical either; entire societies can turn to pederasty, for example, and have. Indeed, there is a minority of the gay lobby who is pushing to allow men to have sex with young boys and calling laws against it, hateful discrimination. One day, boganomics might called a bigot, a relic of an old age, for arguing that grown mean shouldn't be ****ing young boys.

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Also blacks dont choose to have melanin but sexual behavior is always a choice so it is very offensive to compare homosexuality to skin color
I don't agree that behavior is always a choice. Just because something can be controlled or avoided, doesn't make it a choice. Sexual attraction is what it is, if you're a man and you find other men hot, and have no interest in women, is it your position that you should deny yourself all sexual pleasure and loving intimate relationships, just to stay "normal"? Seems rather extreme. If you're built or learn by accident to like men, why should you be celibate?

Do you accept that the brains of many homosexuals are probably broken, in the same way that the brains of many pedophiles are? They are simply turned on by things which other people aren't, and some of them don't seem to have a whole lot of choice in what they're turned on by. This obviously isn't true for all, and the claim pushed by the gay lobby and gay-hysteria academia that homosexuality is never learned is a ridiculous lie, but I think it's inarguable that it's true for some that their homsexuality is innate, the same way other dysfunctional brain disorders are innate.
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Trans people obviously have a disorder, and I think most people agree; the trans lobby has nowhere the power and repetition and hate speech of the gay lobby, that has succeeded in turning young sheep like Veedz and boganomics into closed-minded bigots..
Getting laid > principles.
Others feelings > principles.

Of what use are principles if they don't help you make friends?
Of what use are they if your life isn't getting better?
Of what use are they when you're dead (eventually)?
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Getting laid > principles.
Others feelings > principles.

Of what use are principles if they don't help you make friends?
Of what use are they if your life isn't getting better?
Of what use are they when you're dead (eventually)?
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a member of the Nazi Youth right here. The only reason you're not a member of the Nazi Youth is because you're born in a better age, built by men with principles. The same reason you're not a racist or a basher of homosexuals - you were merely born in an age in which that isn't fashionable/doesn't help you get laid.

I mean, I don't mind your deeply selfish hedonism as a philosophy of life. It's common. But at least recognize that your philosophy makes you not a good person...

Some of us want Western civilization - freedom for women, gays, etc - to endure. I realize you're young and myopic and busy getting your balls licked and you think that's all there is to life, but it's possible to care about things other than pleasure and friends. one doesn't exclude the other.

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Old 05-01-2017, 04:11 AM   #82
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a member of the Nazi Youth right here. He just happened to be born in a different age, built by men with principles.
Built by men who never lived.

The only truly consistent people are the dead - Aldous Huxley.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a member of the Nazi Youth right here. The only reason you're not a member of the Nazi Youth is because you're born in a better age, built by men with principles. The same reason you're not a racist or a basher of homosexuals - you were merely born in an age in which that isn't fashionable/doesn't help you get laid.

I mean, I don't mind your deeply selfish hedonism as a philosophy of life. It's common. But at least recognize that your philosophy makes you not a good person...
Of what use is being a good person, but to appease your own feelings?

Have you yet to be touched by the absurd?
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Built by men who never lived. The only truly consistent people are the dead - Aldous Huxley.
So principles don't exist? I'd suggest that you're extrapolating your own narrow view of life to the experience of the entire human race. It's a common flaw of being young. You're a thinker who has such intense clarity and insight into your mind that you think other minds must operate the same way. They don't; a lot of your "insight" is confirmation bias that nonetheless feels completely real.

As for principles, I agree that most men are in some roundabout way trying to get laid - even if the imprinting of that goes back decades and has long since been distorted.

I agree that many people don't hold to principles.

But it's not an absolute. There are many principled people in the world who do things purely for principle, so you can have your balls licked in a carefree manner rather than being shot up in a war or repressed by a religion or a philosophy like communism.
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Of what use is being a good person, but to appease your own feelings?
This is almost circular reasoning. Sklansky argues the same thing, so you're in good company.

The use is to improve the experience of life and freedoms of other people. I realize that doesn't matter to you, and that's ok...but people are actually capable of living in a realm of choice above that of feelings or personal pleasures.
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I've had some amazing absurdity in my life. A couple of total mind****s. Years of living on holiday in the most beautiful place on Earth in $10K a month villas. Before that, total poverty at times. Working 90 hours/week for a year to the point of total exhaustion. Making several hundred K in an hour trading derivatives, more than once. Been at the brink of death by my own stupidity and had to fight back.

It's not lack of absurdity that makes me believe in principles.

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but people are actually capable of living in a realm of choice above that of feelings or personal pleasures..
How?

All principle is in the service of feelings. To my understanding.
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How?

All principle is in the service of feelings. To my understanding.
I don't agree with you, but I'm highly sympathetic to this because I believed the same thing for quite a few years. I could track the pattern of feelings in my mind that created all that I thought and wanted and did. I thought the primacy of feelings was absolute.

This is a hugely in depth topic. I think it's true when you're young (19 or so) that all things derive from feelings, and not true later in life.

As for how - we have strategic parts to our brains that aren't emotion driven. We can understand the consequences of actions. Put that together with a will that wants to see an outcome based on an idea of how the world ought to be, and you have principles without feelings, and indeed can be opposite to feelings.
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As for how - we have strategic brains that aren't emotion driven. We can understand the consequences of actions. Put that together with a will that wants to see an outcome based on an idea of how the world ought to be, and you have principles without feelings, and indeed can be opposite to feelings.
No.

What you have is a more elaborate and refined game of - how to appease the feelings.
Ohhh, it gets very refined. Still the same game.
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Ok. How do you falsify your belief that everything humans do is ultimately the appeasing of feelings? What would hypothetically disprove your thesis? If you can't answer that, you have circular reasoning.

When a person goes against their feelings and desires in the service of a principle, what is that?

The simplest example of this is discipline. Discipline is actively going against your feelings and desires on the intellectual understanding that it will have a better outcome in the future. One reason discipline is so hard is that it actively goes against what you feel.
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There was a book about principled sociopaths/psychopaths (i.e. people who don't feel empathy, or much at all) you might find interesting as a case study in feelings vs principle. I can't find it right now - will get back to you.
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Ok. How do you falsify your belief that everything humans do is ultimately the appeasing of feelings? What would hypothetically disprove your thesis? If you can't answer that, you have circular reasoning.

When a person goes against their feelings and desires in the service of a principle, what is that?
Choosing to pursue a second-order desire over a first-order one is an example of choosing delayed gratification over instant gratification. More elaborate but all in the service of feelings.

Those who feel less feelings, like sociopaths, excel with the delayed gratification approach. This doesn't mean they don't do it for gratification.
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I've been casually interested in this topic in past (along with the alturism debate) and was never able to reach a conclusion, just sort of settling on VeedDzz's interpretation. I am interested in this, though:

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Ok. How do you falsify your belief that everything humans do is ultimately the appeasing of feelings? What would hypothetically disprove your thesis? If you can't answer that, you have circular reasoning.

When a person goes against their feelings and desires in the service of a principle, what is that?

I mean ultimately the everything is feelings argument is pretty simple to make. yes it may be circular, but it also 'seems' logical. so far to disprove it I've only been able to conjure some obscure thought experiments but even those have their flaws . so I'm interested how you made the transition from that camp to the one you are defending (would love to be convinced by this, as I find it would be a much preferable position)
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The more you strive for some kind of perfection or mastery—in morals, in art or in spirituality—the more you see that you are playing a rarified and lofty form of the old ego-game, and that your attainment of any height is apparent to yourself and to others only by contrast with someone else's depth or failure. - Alan Watts
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You know, you act like you know things, but when you scratch beneath the surface, you have no clue what you're talking about. The gay/gender doesn't exist agenda is being actively promoted to children in a number of jurisdictions. Rates of homosexual activity among the young have risen greatly in the last couple of decades.
Rates of admitted homosexual activity is up. Same for admitted heterosexual activity. There has always been a disconnect between reality and survey results in the country founded by people who found England and Germany a bit too physically affectionate. The change in rates is likely almost purely due to changes in attitudes leading to admitting behavior.

Believe it or not, we **** a lot and always have. Before 1981, there really wasnt' anything else to do to pass the time. We've just never admitted it. At least now, because we are admitting it, we use protection.*

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Why is this more enlightened? I mean, I share your view that we shouldn't a damn about what sexual a particular person is, but doesn't mean there aren't social policy questions around homosexuality. Again, your view of this matter seems informed by ignorance of what's actually going on in the real world.
The social policy agenda being espoused is to let the gays be gay and encourage them to have safe sex and healthy relationships. I'm sure you can find some strange one-off news articles about some weirdo pushing for sex with sheep if you look hard enough, but that is like saying that public policy is pushing for more gun violence because there is gun violence.

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You're deeply ignorant, unfortunately. There are NAMBLA supporters running sexual education courses for children in which homosexuality is pushed as desirable and normal and something to explore and experiment with, which causes an increase in homosexual behavior (we're seeing this already). Gender fluidity and choosing one's gender is taught to 10 year olds in many school districts, which causes confusion and encourages the development rather than the healing or passing of dysfunctional dysmorphias. Prepubescent children that feel like they are the opposite gender at say age 10, are often put on hormones by doctors and parents that suppress their sexual development; never mind that this is a radical intervention and that 80% grow out of it and grow up to live normal lives without this radical intervention. There is a major public health debate about this at the moment among doctors and psychologists. Real lives are affected.

The question of whether, for example, trans people with gender dysmorphia have a disorder, is an important one. Trans people obviously have a disorder, and I think most people agree; the trans lobby has nowhere the power and repetition and hate speech of the gay lobby, that has succeeded in turning young sheep like Veedz and boganomics into closed-minded bigots.

So the questions matter whether or not you want to stick your head in the sand. They matter to public policy, they matter to the decisions people will make on behalf of children, they matter in terms of the harm that promoting a homosexual and trans lifestyle as normal will do, both to individuals and society.

This is not hypothetical either; entire societies can turn to pederasty, for example, and have. Indeed, there is a minority of the gay lobby who is pushing to allow men to have sex with young boys and calling laws against it, hateful discrimination. One day, boganomics might called a bigot, a relic of an old age, for arguing that grown mean shouldn't be ****ing young boys.
Worrying about NAMBLA taking over sexual education is a bit over the top. It simply isn't supported. If it becomes supported in some way shape or form, we can worry about that then.

It is like worrying about female teachers having sex with their students. It makes the news because it is news, not commonplace.

*we being Americans.
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Rates of admitted homosexual activity is up. Same for admitted heterosexual activity. There has always been a disconnect between reality and survey results in the country founded by people who found England and Germany a bit too physically affectionate. The change in rates is likely almost purely due to changes in attitudes leading to admitting behavior.
In anonymous surveys? Seems a bit far fetched. Lifetime prevalence of same-sex activity has more than doubled when you measure youth vs older people.

I'm open to the idea that your claim is correct, I just haven't seen evidence for it.

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If that was the beginning and end of the social policy agenda, I'd be fine with it.
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I'm sure you can find some strange one-off news articles about some weirdo pushing for sex with sheep if you look hard enough, but that is like saying that public policy is pushing for more gun violence because there is gun violence.
Gender fluidity training, the undercutting of "heteronormativity", the normalizing of body dysmorphia, the normality of experimentation with homosexuality, teaching of sexual and gender politics to young kids, is being openly pushed and practiced in a large number of districts.

It's not a case of teaching kids "hey, some people are gay, that's how they are, leave them alone". I'm fine with that.
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Worrying about NAMBLA taking over sexual education is a bit over the top. It simply isn't supported. If it becomes supported in some way shape or form, we can worry about that then.
People said the same thing about homosexuality some decades ago
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The more you strive for some kind of perfection or mastery—in morals, in art or in spirituality—the more you see that you are playing a rarified and lofty form of the old ego-game, and that your attainment of any height is apparent to yourself and to others only by contrast with someone else's depth or failure. - Alan Watts
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This dickhead is your philosophical idol? You are way smarter than that...
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I mean, I'll grant you that it's often true for morals. In art - definitely not. There is pleasure in the skill of talented and beautiful creativity that is entirely personal; it has nothing to do with ego or other people.

Spiritual mastery is the mastery of the self, and understanding of yourself, how your brain works (as observed internally), how your feelings work, how the world affects that.Tending toward mastery and perfection in that is basic self-actualizing; to me it is something that comes after ego is sated.

Nietzsche's UberMensch is perhaps an example of what he's talking about, but Nietzsche was just a guy with a fine intellect and a low EQ.
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People in western society are having the least hetero sex since ww2 when marriage was still common, and likely the least sex in human history now that 60% of americans are single and atleast 30% of women are in same sex relationships meaning 99% of men think theyre dating 10% of women while the rest are in bars with atleast 5 single dudes per single female and often much worse, war is the only way to purge large portions of the single male population but smarter cultures have learned men are much more peaceful when they dont have to support massive lesbian populations while the women are less likely to meet eachother thus settle for men as is the case in eastern countries, I believe were on borrowed time afforded by widespread porn addiction but unfortunately the appeal of shockporn which has become mainstream on every major porn site eventually wears off and youre left with nothing but memories of pathological sexual fetishes that would cause even the most vicious dictators from the past to lose their dinner, Ive been trying to prevent the catastrophe by posting these instructions on how to have sex properly only to be censored and banned by the people who would actually prefer to watch the catastrophe, cant say I didnt try- the best bet is undoubtedly shifting focus away from sex in the media especially lesbian sex which tends to appeal to the older generation of men but does not fascinate young men who grew up with endless HD hetero porn offering much better phallic-centered kinks, unless younger generations of girls suddenly begin to prefer real sex the expectation needs to be that you are unlikely to have much of it or frustration will continue with inevitable violent outbursts

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According to this study, you guys are the mixed up ones:

Homophobic People Often Have Psychological Issues

"The findings position homophobia as a trait more often seen in dysfunctional personalities, but personality isn't the whole story. Homophobia is a "culture-induced disease," Jannini said, so personality traits probably interplay with factors like religion and conservative values. The researchers are currently expanding the study to students in Albania, Jannini said. They're also studying how the fear of not being "man enough"
might influence homophobic attitudes."

http://www.livescience.com/52146-hom...ty-traits.html
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Don't strive to be better than average, otherwise you're just trying to make other people look bad for the sake of your own ego
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This dickhead is your philosophical idol? You are way smarter than that...
Inferences you're choosing to draw based on Watts' acute observations. Feel free however to make your own inferences and conclusions.

In my understanding, even the the most artsy of artists seek recognition or peer support. Turned inward it simply changes forms, into a game of - who I am now vs who I want to become.

As soon as you divide the self, you have ego; and you have ego-games.
Escape from the game is not possible, short of living only in and for the present. Something many have tried, to little avail.
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