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10-09-2015 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
Engagement is ended. Futility is not my style nor worth too much of my time and especially as mod thus complicating my dual role in SMP. But see The Tartar Steppe, by Dino Buzzati for a more full illustration. It is an excellent read if a little too truthful.



Please continue the discussion and disregard my impolite interruption and digression into the world of reason and rationality.
Hey, just a quick note after some consideration. I do wager you may understand that I only usually relate with specific criticism of fallacy of reason. Since Tosh is not a term I am familiar with and you haven't specified direct content to observe and further described as reasonable or irrational, it is true that I am at a loss how I could help you beyond restating what I find is the intentions of my posting ITT.

Mediation is diverse and inclusive. It is worth understanding and communicating about effectively.

I understand if you have a differing view and do apologize if any linguistic anomalies or undue enthusiasm created unintentional misunderstanding between us.

I do hope I am not still toshing and remain with regards to such presumed reason not too.

Have you heard about butt-meditation? It's a real clencher!

With hearts, spank.
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10-10-2015 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Also, linguistics has really advanced how meditators communicate around the world. Linguistic differential superficiality is greatly diminished when people of different languages and lingos are able to translate each other's concepts and find mutual commonality through similarity while better respecting differences with understanding.
Hahahahahahahaha this is amazing word soup. "find mutual commonality through similarity", WOW.
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10-10-2015 , 10:23 AM
This is an exercise which may be placed under the umbrella of meditative techniques.

At the end of day work backwards in "imaginative pictures" of your experiences throughout the day, last to first. Do this from bedtime back to the moment of awakening. This can greatly effect one's focus and strengthens thought; the more detailed the better.

Usually at first try one can be moderately successful but it becomes more difficult upon further attempts as the thought world is not so organized as one would like. Many thoughts can and will interfere, which is common to all meditative practices. Also if you fall asleep in the middle of the exercise then upon awakening it is best to return to the point of sleep and finish. This is aphoristic and calls for a more knowledgeable understanding but it certainly can't hurt to do so.

I forgot the name of this in German but something like "rukshaw" and so if any German speaking peoples, a correction would be appreciated. It probably means "thinking backwards".
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10-10-2015 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FeralCreature
Hahahahahahahaha this is amazing word soup. "find mutual commonality through similarity", WOW.

I would suppose, in general, that meditators have some advantages when communicating with one another about their respective art across language, culture and discipline. Flexible thinking and patience are a great ingredients in a recipe for understanding other people and understanding the challenges linguistics present which are unique to meditation.

I do apologize if any linguist anomaly, undue enthusiasm, or the unfamiliarity with my thinking and experience of the art has provoke discomfort in you. I'm sure with a combined commitment we can work it out going forward towards mutual satisfaction.
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10-10-2015 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
I do apologize if any linguist anomaly, undue enthusiasm, or the unfamiliarity with my thinking and experience of the art has provoke discomfort in you. I'm sure with a combined commitment we can work it out going forward towards mutual satisfaction.
Mutual is when you do it to each other; common is when you have it in common. The distinction even matters sometimes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistake_(contract_law)

When you speak of "mutual commonality", it's tosh because what does it even mean? What is the difference between it and "common mutuality", or even simply "mutuality" or "commonality"?

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10-10-2015 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lastcardcharlie
Mutual is when you do it to each other; common is when you have it in common. The distinction even matters sometimes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistake_(contract_law)

When you speak of "mutual commonality", it's tosh because what does it even mean? What is the difference between it and "common mutuality", or even simply "mutuality" or "commonality"?

Yes it does appear that mutual could be a troubling word. It was written to suggest contextually "agreement between individuals". Agreement was an unintentionally absent word in that telling. Fixed:

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Also, linguistics has really advanced how meditators communicate around the world. Linguistic differential superficiality is greatly diminished when people of different languages and lingos are able to translate each other's concepts and find mutual agreement of commonality through similarity, while better respecting differences with understanding.
Perhaps an example would be more illustrative, quick, and practical.

This poster and I have a similar, but not the same, practice. So we have a commonality of practice which we can mutually agree upon, thus setting a foundation to learn or respect whatever individual distinctions we may encounter mutually sharing further information about our respective practices.



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This is an exercise which may be placed under the umbrella of meditative techniques.

At the end of day work backwards in "imaginative pictures" of your experiences throughout the day, last to first. Do this from bedtime back to the moment of awakening. This can greatly effect one's focus and strengthens thought; the more detailed the better.

Usually at first try one can be moderately successful but it becomes more difficult upon further attempts as the thought world is not so organized as one would like. Many thoughts can and will interfere, which is common to all meditative practices. Also if you fall asleep in the middle of the exercise then upon awakening it is best to return to the point of sleep and finish. This is aphoristic and calls for a more knowledgeable understanding but it certainly can't hurt to do so.

I forgot the name of this in German but something like "rukshaw" and so if any German speaking peoples, a correction would be appreciated. It probably means "thinking backwards".
BTW: I know this practice as 'daily reflection' and it is not an uncommon practice from what I have studied. 'Thinking backwards' is a fun way to put it.
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10-10-2015 , 06:34 PM
Thanks, I think I understand it now. Mutual agreement of commonality is a means of achieving common mutuality, right?
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10-10-2015 , 07:14 PM
We've reached a new nadir through common mutuality. Derrida excrement. Meditate on that.
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10-10-2015 , 09:34 PM
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Thanks, I think I understand it now. Mutual agreement of commonality is a means of achieving common mutuality, right?
A perspective for more specifically when dealing with subtle commonality. One which may appear as a difference from some perspectives. A superficial difference, for an example. Individual mediation experiences, another.
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11-09-2015 , 09:42 PM
I started reading The Mindful Geek. It's quite an easy read and pretty much exactly targeted at people like OP. It's clearing some things up for me already.
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