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Originally Posted by scorcher863
damn, good post brianthemick.
I prefer if my kudos were capitalized, but thank you.
(Just below the caps lock key or, if you wish, the enter key, you will find a shift key. It makes the letters "big" when you hold it down when typing an individual letter... I am only teasing, since you actually used punctuation, which is enormously more valuable in understanding your post)
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i was reading a book called moral minds by a harvard PhD biologist, and he talked about how the potential for morality to develop is innate in the human mind from infancy,
His book is a little too preachy (and goes WAY beyond current research findings), but morality/ethics is definitely partly hard-wired. Why do you think we have ethical philosophers? They explain and develop what we are built to believe, but can't explain in words easily.* Heck, even dogs have a sense of morals surrounding fairness and us vs. them.
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there is alot of "play" as to the way that they can develop.
We usually call that "play" religion. "Upbringing" is probably more universal though.
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that is why we see such vast differences in culture, despite us having the same brains (like how muslims find it honorable to kill unfaithful women or the romans enjoyed watching people getting ripped apart in gladiator battles).
No need to call out specific cultures and religions. A good raping/pillaging is all good, as long as it is not real people who suffer.
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so, we could explain any percieved disparity of intelligence in black people, if black culture lacked some sort of social convention that pertained to intelligence.
Your statement can be taken as damning of the economic majority's cuture(me, AKA white people) or of black people's culture. I am able and willing to assign blame where blame lies, but I am unsure what the solution is.**
Either way (and I am sure it is a combination of cultures, not one that is to blame), culture differences cause economic/behavior differences. Genetic differences may play a part, but I am pretty sure these are not actionable, and are certainly small.
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and given that the history of black oppression in this country has caused black culture to be undereducated, and also that the first and most impactful form of culture that an individual is exposed to is their family, it makes perfect sense why individuals in black culture would appear to be less intelligent.
A simple demonstration of the problem with confusing ethnicity/culture/economics with race, is that people from the Netherlands are really freaking tall. A century ago, they were not as tall as the average American.
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i mean, einstein would have been caught up doing dumb sh*t if his parents were drug addicts and on welfare, and attended a third-rate school for only like 7 years.
He was a dumb-**** when he was young. Outliers are not important when discussing populations.
*This does not discount their value. If not for ethcal philosophers / religious scholars (it pains me to say) it would still be all about "us vs. them."
**Actually, I am being modest and self-protective. I do have the solution, but it involves me becoming judge, jury and executioner and I don't quite have the votes.