Official Outer Limits/Debunking Thread

[ProphetofProfit]

My question.

Is Paul Lafolley a genius or a madman or both?

http://www.miqel.com/visionary_art/p...ley_intro.html

Does his work make sense to anyone? I read that a CAT scan discovered a 3/8" metallic object lodge in his occipital lobe, straight from the horses mouth.

[cixelsyD]

I was reading about Wittgenstein, the summary book talked about him being Christian. Did he ever explain why this is? I know this is more RGT but ill get better answers here.

[Zeno]

Originally Posted by cixelsyD

I was reading about Wittgenstein, the summary book talked about him being Christian. Did he ever explain why this is? I know this is more RGT but ill get better answers here.

Not a reason to post it here in SMP, even in the Fringe Topics Thread. If you wish general information on the philosophy of Wittgenstein then start a thread on it.

If you wish to know something about specific religious beliefs, or religious beliefs and justifications of it for individuals, then post in RGT. The basic principle is that forums must have some fundamental focus to function in an orderly manner.

-Zeno

[donniccolo]

this thread hasn't done much to convince me that humans have landed on the moon.

[martin9_90]

u reckon is there a god or no? need answer pretty quick

[donniccolo]

no

[DDNK]

It's within the realm of possibility at least.

[DDNK]

Hard to flame away when you've not even given an account. And a UFO story from an unknown, anonymous source is about as interesting to me as watching other people play Monopoly, no offense, so good luck with that.

[atakdog]

Originally Posted by Jakey5303

Flame me all you want, but I have seen a UFO.

P.S. I am not insane. After seeing one myself, I find it hard that someone who says they don't exist can simply dismiss thousands upon thousands of eye witnesses.

I have no doubt that if you say you have seen a UFO, you have.

[donniccolo]

Originally Posted by Jakey5303

Flame me all you want, but I have seen a UFO.

P.S. I am not insane. After seeing one myself, I find it hard that someone who says they don't exist can simply dismiss thousands upon thousands of eye witnesses.

Not saying I know that there was an alien inside, or whether or not it was built by the government, but I saw one. One that looked like it was straight from the movies.

Flame away.

Any questions are also welcome.

where were you? what time of day? what did it look like? what range was it at? was it moving? how fast? lights?



to answer the ? "what is a ufo" any object that you cannot readily identify is a UFO. if you look at the sky and see an airplane, you can identify it as a plane. if i create a weird device and launch it into the sky and then you see it and cannot identify it, its a UFO.

i love aliens but i know enough to not just assume that ufo = aliens.

[plaaynde]

Originally Posted by donniccolo

this thread hasn't done much to convince me that humans have landed on the moon.

Was waiting for this. Let´s start *




*again

[Ryanb9]

I decided to check this tread out and all i have to say is tl;dr.

[donniccolo]

Originally Posted by plaaynde

Was waiting for this. Let´s start *




*again

i cannot get over the timeline that everyone so blindly believes. let me recap:

1961: USA's space exploration totals 15 manned minutes in low earth orbit

1961-1968: NASA scientists work diligently to create, from scratch, the most sophisticated technology ever dreamt by man (spacesuits, Saturn V rocket, lunar orbiter, etc)

1969-1972: USA sends 7 manned missions to the moon (6 land on the moon and return safely while one of them becomes a Tom Hanks movie)

These missions manage to successfully leave Earths atmosphere, zip 200k+ miles to the moon's orbit, deploy a Lunar Module to safely land 69 miles below on the surface of the moon and then the Module is able to blast off the surface of the moon days later and reconnect with the Command Module which was orbiting the moon at around 4,000 mph.

We are to believe that they nailed this mission 6 times in 7 attempts (in outer space mind you) where as it took thousands of trials and errors on Earth to even get into Earth's orbit.

This all really sits well in your mind? w/ 60s technology? developed in < 8 years? in the 60s?!

EIGHT YEARS. not bad considering it took Stars 3 years to implement "auto add-on". In 5 more years maybe Stars will have moon landing software ;-)

Consider this peculiar fact: in order to reach the surface of the Moon from the surface of the Earth, the Apollo astronauts would have had to travel a minimum of 234,000 miles*. Since the last Apollo flight allegedly returned from the Moon in 1972, the furthest that any astronaut from any country has traveled from the surface of the Earth is about 400 miles. And very few have even gone that far. The primary components of the current U.S. space program – the space shuttles, the space station, and the Hubble Telescope – operate at an orbiting altitude of about 200 miles.

(*NASA gives the distance from the center of Earth to the center of the Moon as 239,000 miles. Since the Earth has a radius of about 4,000 miles and the Moon’s radius is roughly 1,000 miles, that leaves a surface-to-surface distance of 234,000 miles. The total distance traveled during the alleged missions, including Earth and Moon orbits, ranged from 622,268 miles for Apollo 13 to 1,484,934 miles for Apollo 17. All on a single tank of gas.)

good read: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html

[plaaynde]

Originally Posted by donniccolo

EIGHT YEARS. not bad considering it took Stars 3 years to implement "auto add-on". In 5 more years maybe Stars will have moon landing software ;-)

This really got me to think if Kennedy´s dream ever was fulfilled.

[Akileos]

The mythbusters episodes on the moon landing hoax were an extended riposte to this argument.

And destroys your weak pro hoax points.