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05-28-2012, 12:24 AM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2012
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Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
Hey guys,
I took some math in college and am now going back to explore it some more; I think there's some chance I'll want to do grad work in something mathy.
Anyway, I've taken the calc sequence, linear algebra, and ODE's. Really didn't like ODE's, liked linear algebra, and think I'll like some optimization/game theory type courses.
I'm taking Real Analysis I now and can take Real Analysis II, Game Theory, or Probability in the second semester this summer. For what it's worth, I really like the cardinality stuff we've covered (like C(0,1) = C(0,2)).
I'm also taking classes in the fall/spring semester at a good college so I should be able to take any standard math class. I want to maximize my exposure to topics so would like to avoid taking classes that are fairly similar (like algebra + number theory seems like a bit of a waste to take in the same semester).
Anyway, sorry this is so tl;dr but would love to get some advice from the math guys. Happy to clarify anything that's unclear.
Thanks a lot,
Mariogs
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05-28-2012, 12:33 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: London
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
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I want to maximize my exposure to topics so would like to avoid taking classes that are fairly similar (like algebra + number theory seems like a bit of a waste to take in the same semester).
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Why do you think these are similar?
Algebra is a pretty key subject, well worth considering (compulsory imo). Not knocking number theory at all but unless you're particularly interested in number theory its a stand-alone subject that you can leave out.
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05-28-2012, 12:45 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Henderson, NV
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
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Originally Posted by Mariogs37
I took some math in college and am now going back to explore it some more; I think there's some chance I'll want to do grad work in something mathy.
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Can you be more precise about this? There are lots of "mathy" things for which you don't need much of any of the formal mathematics.
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I'm also taking classes in the fall/spring semester at a good college so I should be able to take any standard math class. I want to maximize my exposure to topics so would like to avoid taking classes that are fairly similar (like algebra + number theory seems like a bit of a waste to take in the same semester).
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I'm not sure why you think algebra and number theory are similar enough that it's a "waste" to take them in the same semester.
If I'm reading this right, you're a non-degree seeking student, so your concerns have little to do with the formal requirements of classes that one must take to get a degree in math, but instead you're interested in preparing for applying to graduate school in some field, but you're not really sure what that field is.
I think you should figure out the grad school part first, and then the math course question will work itself out.
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05-28-2012, 12:47 AM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
I thought they were similar because, where I went for undergrad, abstract algebra was a pre-req for number theory, and *I thought* a lot of number theory results rely on algebra...
Thoughts on what I should take for my 2nd class this summer and then during the year? Was thinking something like:
Game Theory (summer)
Abstract Algebra
Probability Theory
Optimization
Complex Analysis
Not sure whether I should sub in topology or geometry for one of the above...thoughts?
Thanks for the help, Chezlaw.
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05-28-2012, 12:48 AM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
@Aaron,
I know I like math, but it's hard to know what specifically I want to do math-wise without taking more math. Sort of a catch-22...to know what I want to do more of, I have to just go out and take more math...
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05-28-2012, 01:03 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
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Originally Posted by Mariogs37
@Aaron,
I know I like math, but it's hard to know what specifically I want to do math-wise without taking more math. Sort of a catch-22...to know what I want to do more of, I have to just go out and take more math...
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It's sort of true, but it's also not that true.
Is your intention to get a Masters or PhD? Are you interested in getting one in math or merely a "mathy" field (perhaps something in computer science or finance)?
Looking further down the horizon, what do you intend to do with whatever degree you're getting?
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05-28-2012, 01:07 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
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Originally Posted by Mariogs37
I thought they were similar because, where I went for undergrad, abstract algebra was a pre-req for number theory, and *I thought* a lot of number theory results rely on algebra...
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Number theory uses algebra, but it also draws on ideas from geometry and topology. Yet taking a class in number theory is nothing like taking a class in any of algebra, geometry, or topology.
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05-28-2012, 01:15 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: London
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
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Originally Posted by Mariogs37
Thoughts on what I should take for my 2nd class this summer and then during the year? Was thinking something like:
Game Theory (summer)
Abstract Algebra
Probability Theory
Optimization
Complex Analysis
Not sure whether I should sub in topology or geometry for one of the above...thoughts?
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Sounds good. Not sure what geometry covers at this level but personally I'd miss this out even if there's lots of fractual stuff and especially if its back to the Greeks.
Is the topology course one you should consider doing later? may just have been where I studied but it was an advanced course (not one I ever did but sounded interesting).
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05-28-2012, 04:11 AM
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adept
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
Do you have access to rough course outlines for the geometry and topology courses? If so, could you post them?
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05-28-2012, 10:25 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Losing at Omahaha
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
Not sure where you want to go, but if you wanna go into finance, I can recommend probability and measure theory. I really liked both myself.
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05-28-2012, 01:16 PM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Formerly Mariogs379
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
MATH W4051x Topology 3 pts. Prerequisites: MATH V1202, MATH V2010, and rudiments of group theory (e.g., MATH W4041). MATH V1208 or W4061 is recommended, but not required. Metric spaces, continuity, compactness, quotient spaces. The fundamental group of topological space. Examples from knot theory and surfaces. Covering spaces.
Will post geo later. No interest in finance fwiw...
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05-29-2012, 04:13 AM
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adept
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
I would advise to take Topology and leave out Optimization. Other than that I like your choices.
Anything up to quotient spaces in the Topology class description you will need to know if you go further in math. And fundamental groups is a very interesting topic.
Optimization is applied and quite specific, and tbh probably kinda boring. I'd say you can always learn it later on your own if it turns out to need it.
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05-29-2012, 07:56 AM
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adept
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
I was going to suggest the same, topology instead of optimization. I was a little worried that the topology course would be too big of a jump, but judging by that outline it should be fine.
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05-29-2012, 11:11 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
No one has mentioned statistics yet--if you want to go to industry you might want to supplement your knowledge with some statistics--say, a course on regression and a follow up course, say time series or data mining (or both).
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05-29-2012, 12:03 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: London
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Re: Math Course Selection? Advice Needed!
If were going down what best for the carear route then maybe consider some programming courses.
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