Seems like it would be so much easier to have cross threads like "Is the world a kinder place than the past". No need to get into it, I get the gist. I do wonder if there was an ancient past in which a great number of peoples lived of weed, opium, and ma huang. A peaceful history that was wiped out, perhaps one that was in equilibrium but struck by an major catastrophe.
This I understand I think and agree with, I think your mindset in that is correct and pacifying where as those conditioned to 'anxious' responses like "I hope that never happens to me (becoming an ant)" are showing the exact friction that is a certain depression.


I think I recently understood how to separate different forms of anxiety from depression (in definition). But I think I am understanding there is a difference between depression and sorrow in this context.

Also you point at hopelessness, but I guess that might not refer to a hopeless situation, which might cause sorrow, but is different from depression in that the hopelessness has a reference to a future we wish to escape from and the latter is a situation we accept we cannot.


I've worked with these kinds of peoples in underground mines and 4 week on 2 off camp jobs. Nearly all of them wouldn't survive it without drugs and alcohol, and/or were depressed (may or may not admit it). But maybe you were pointing at the time when they had hope (hoping/waiting for days off or even retirement).

I often wonder if I should instill hope in others for that reason, kind of like saving a bugs life but knowing its just going to starve to death anyways (trapped in a room).

In other words you are talking bull **** and don't know either.

Life comes with a special circumstance that is 'the unknown'. It is not a solvable aspect in that regard.

Since there is this hole at the very root of what this is, we are unable to extract such things such as morals logic, and reasons to live.

This is why you will find that most (if not all) religions (which are essentially attempts to answer your question) are built on and based off of external roots such as the 10 commandments written on stone, golden tablets, angels, channeling etc.

The question you are asking and the answer your are looking for is a little more peculiar than the way you are approaching it.

I think the schoolboy was depressed rather than brilliant.

He knows that having a nice evening is pleasant.

Not sure what more one could possibly want.

He gave clear instructions on how to have one. Not sure what more you could possibly want.

You didn't pay attention to the first two sentences of my post.

Anyway, getting upset only makes things worse for you.

Almost time for my nightcap of whiskey.

Been busy so can’t post much. But yesterday I visited a friend (Bill) after work and brought over a growler of IPA from a small brewery. My friend is also a home brewer so we sampled some of his quality stuff also. We sat outside in the cool evening, drinking the beers and eating, and talked shop a bit, then about fly fishing which we both love, and then about cars etc. His pleasant girlfriend came over later and we discussed art as that is her gig in life at present. All three of us topped the evening off by smoking/sharing a cigar (A Cohiba, Cuban smuggled in by some other friends) and sipping rye whiskey.

Live unknown and live well.

So you are suggesting that religion might have a better attempt at answering my question. I will look into it.

I got drunk tonight.... period.....period.....per..

Anyway when the night was said and done I came to here to post. My mind was wandering. Wandering thats the feeling I would describe no time really to tell you how I was feeling about one thought or the next. They were merely thoughts. A puzzle chasing, chasing as you said to me earlier. You described it as a sort of conundrum a problem to overcome perhaps. Well I have furelise playing in the background and I must say Im revelling in it. Perhaps the chasing chasing your doing stops to frequently and for too long a intermission. I would suggest improving Your chasing endurance and frequency IMO Just a suggestion. Actually your chasing chasing response to me might have been in another thread. Anyway Im enjoying myself at the moment. Then again I am in training also.

Sounds very enjoyable. Couldn't ask for more out of life.

I missed the idea that the afterlife is incomplete information since its an unknown (not sure if I said that right).

So if one has no utility and feels at best indifferent to life/death, isn't there a non zero amount of ev gained from helping someone else with their utility?

Enough to tip the scale stuck at 'live=die' to live?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVW8tgGY_w

Getting stuck on this is not a bad place to be. One of my favorite pieces. Not sure what anyone could possibly have to complain about.

I recently tried weed and had a major breakdown on it. It started with her voices in my head, almost demonic telling me to kill myself. I was told to go out walking by the psychologist and had racing thoughts of jumping out into traffic. Any loud noise made me jump and anything I didn't expect to see made me jump, it was a serious major nervous breakdown. Doing weed was one of the worst experiences of my life. To overcome that I locked myself in my bedroom for a few days and gorging myself on chocolate and was back to normal health. I will never do weed again.

No such thing. I want to make this absolutely clear. There is no such thing. I have researched and asked about such pills but none was given to me. I got antidepressants but they didn't work and I was on them for a long time.

Again I want to stress this did not work for me. Exercise was a big part of my life I used to 3 or 4 times a week now only 1 or 2. I honestly hated going and to be honest I seen no improvement in my moods and I had already felt fit. And I have already said about the pills. They didn't work for me.

I have a guaranteed way to make your life worth living. Google "jelqing" and "kegels" and practice both for a solid year or two. Stick it out, the results will blow your mind and give you more than enough meaning to live. When you finally reach the level of 2 hour tantric sex sessions you'll be motived to learn about all the other joys in life.

Such things don't interest me (I don't think you have read my blog, now that will blow your mind)

What does interest me is knowing the future or having a mystical experience or gaining some type of power or knowledge.

Welcome to the club! The mystical experience is the undiscovered country, knowledge can take your mind to. Or rather the most important thing, the process of getting there. (For Physics; what is nature telling us and nobody is listening and once you finally get lucky to ask the right questions, how do you manage to find the strength and wisdom to get there to the synthesis, with nobody but dead friends there to assist you, the love of your family and that long gone child of your youth looking at you, standing still in that horizon that is your life's origins, in agony, about what you did to his dream, but not entirely resigned yet...ready to smile one last time).