Hey everybody as a healthy exercise let's say corny, positive, good in the way of sentiment, things about intuition.

Pshh when did this happen

Damn cell phone has me auto logged-in.

Intuition is your instinct that is based upon everything you have ever known.

This implies that intuition is based on memory, which is inherently faulty and bias. And known information can be wrong or subject to change.

This is a great book to read that is relevant to this thread:

Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman

By memory do you mean brain? I believe intuition to be a form of recall that's adapting to the present moment.

All known information can be wrong or subject to change. That should be no different for intuition.

I'm not implying intuition shouldn't be challenged. It's just your starting point, a default response to a situation.

An individual faculty.

It's in my uni's library, i'll go for a walk and check it out right now. Looks amazing.

I had a feeling this thread would suck, and I was right.

I bet your first clue was that this was an SMP thread.

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Intuition is the aggregate assessment based on intelligence, experience, and current sensory information, at a minimum. Some are more naturally intuitive than others, and some are more trusting of their intuitive assessments than others.

intuition

noun
the ability to understand something instinctively, without the need for conscious reasoning.
"we shall allow our intuition to guide us"

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A kind of subconscious reasoning you could say. See the game Go to see why such reasoning is interesting - conscious reasoning or logical thinking in that game is impossible yet you have players who are great at the game.

I need to think more about this when I have the time. It's an interesting topic OP. It's just the troll replies that suck.

The book I posted about above (post #5) deals with exactly that subject in great detail. The research evidence is quite interesting. I can't emphasize enough how useful and illuminating the book is.

Seen some Kahneman talks online.. He mentioned how expert chess players have reliable intuition. How they develop it, is through what I assume is pattern recognition, which is memory, acting on trial and error? It should be noted he then goes on to say the world is more complicated, or something to that effect(don’t want to misquote :0) I take this to mean that trial and error is only as useful so far as variance plays a role on ones discipline. IOW reliable/constant feedback, as he might have put it?.?. (he has quite a few talks)

In the case of good looking politicians getting elected - perhaps - we can assume intuitive decisions can be brought about by positive associations? This seems like a faulty way to develop ones intuition.
When I say positive associations, I believe I am missing quite a bit… because it could be said that the chess player’s moves are done through what can be called positive associations.




So maybe it is true that our intuitive development is more one dimensional, and not open to alterations/improvements?

Nonetheless the putting conscious effort into developing ones subconscious reasoning, seems to me, to be an interesting inquiry.

^^^ I raise this - only because I intuitively feel it is done Maybe its as simple as being skeptical about the world…

Anyway I should just get on with reading that book already…

Dictionary is lacking for the concept and the experience.

A thought process which doesn't use 'language' is more like from the horse's mouth.

I'd place intuition related with mindfulness as well as instinct. The "gut feeling" experience of intuition is just one reported type of experience.

I'll take your word for it. It contains other interesting topics as well so I'll pick it up from the local library.


The relationship between consciousness and determinism creep in when you think about it.
You can't have free will without consciousness, but you can have determinism with consciousness. If determinism is true, then it matters not how conscious we are when we make a decision.

If you watch a movie and hit rewind and the character goes through the same decision making process again and comes to the same conclusion (as expected b/c you hit rewind) this doesn't mean he didn't go through the process just b/c you knew what would happen. Or that the process he went through is any less important. Or that he would have came to the same conclusion had he not gone through that process.

If determinism is true this doesn't mean consciousness is less important. It just means proving determinism becomes more difficult. It would be easy to prove it if there were no life b/c when you drop a rock, it is not going to float up into the sky--that can be pretty well determined. Many humans however think they are special in this matter.

Awareness remains, such as the awareness that opportunity for conscious choice is always present and there is no reason that would change because of being unaware of it.

Now add that awareness with the ability to use the opportunity to make conscious choice, and it may seem that consciously aware choices are an influence that may matter to a person, whether they follow any unsatisfying 'bound' worldview or not.

Mack, in a surprise coincidence thread cross-over, this recent upload at the YouTube Channel we discussed in the drunk thread touches on an area related with intuition, will, consciousness....Explanations beyond present human cognitive capacity.

https://youtu.be/XGgro7whKSI

There is no mind-body problem because there are no bodies. As soon as we understand something, it becomes what we call 'physical' is what I took away from that.
I've been spending way too much time thinking about this knowing full well it's an age-old unanswerable question but I'll look into Chomsky's take on it..

Determinism acts on consciousness. There is no point where determinism ends and consciousness begins...

You can't have consciousness without determinism... Therefore you can't have free will that's not determined?

Sorry train of thought.. Was curious if it was logically consistent.. So I submit it, heh..

Intuition something that I'll never explain, but i'm sure it can be scientifically explained!

An intuition in a 'not quite mechanical ' universe is no big deal aside from it's mystery.