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Old 07-30-2012, 12:03 AM   #31
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Re: Is having beliefs about things we don't know stupid?

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I don't know any of you 3, but I hate you both after reading this and I don't know why.
Interesting response; I think you'd learn a bit about yourself if you found the answer.

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Assume is a better word but not the best.

Everything should be thought of in terms of probabilities. Then you act based on them. But you don't always assume the most likely posibility when choosing that action.

How is that not obvious to the readers of a poker website?
I find it impratical to think like that when dealing with minute probabilities, particulary when in situations that involve questions one's premises. There's only so much processing power a brain has.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:47 AM   #32
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How is that not obvious to the readers of a poker website?
This is why some people think you are a pompous prick. Your post stood up just fine without adding the last sentence. Sometimes less is more.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:07 AM   #33
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Re: Is having beliefs about things we don't know stupid?

It is, at times, difficult to be intelligent and humble.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:07 AM   #34
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It is, at times, difficult to be intelligent and humble.
Intelligent compared to what? And I do assume you are defining it comparatively?
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:19 AM   #35
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Am i just not understanding newguys posts or does he just post exclusively semantic arguments ? Not trying to knock u and feel free to reply but it seems like u always kinda derail threads with semantic arguments way more than any1 else on here/
Its not semantics though, fighting over semantics is stupid and should have its own thread. Fighting over the origins of language and sound though is awesome.


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I don't know any of you 3, but I hate you both after reading this and I don't know why.
No they are justifiedish, but so are you.

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I believe x. Hmm thats arrogant. I believe nothing. Hmm also arrogant. I probably believe nothing. Wait I believe in probably. hmm I probably believe in probability:b
this i agree with completely

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Everything should be thought of in terms of probabilities. Then you act based on them. But you don't always assume the most likely posibility when choosing that action.

How is that not obvious to the readers of a poker website?
This is really biased coming from a poker teacher, theorist, player, etc. How can you make me know thats not biased?

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lol my bad didnt mean to offend any1.
I agree you didn't mean to offend.

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Interesting response; I think you'd learn a bit about yourself if you found the answer.
ya with some of the **** ive said I agree with you here a little.


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This is why some people think you are a pompous prick. Your post stood up just fine without adding the last sentence. Sometimes less is more.
I think because we are here we can act pompous in order to not have to constantly say, this is my opinion or I may or may be correct etc.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:23 AM   #36
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Re: Is having beliefs about things we don't know stupid?

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Intelligent compared to what? And I do assume you are defining it comparatively?
See this would be part of a Fabric:What can we use to compare intelligence?

And this: What is a Fabric?
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:35 AM   #37
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Re: Is having beliefs about things we don't know stupid?

I don't believe people who claim to have no beliefs.



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Old 07-30-2012, 02:43 AM   #38
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I don't believe people who claim to have no beliefs.



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I've found 2....Jiddhu krishnamurti and Bruce lee...keep in mind Lee inherited this later as a result of trying to master hand to hand combat. But Krishna can convince you he had zero beliefs. He referred to himself as 'k' or 'the speaker' etc.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:51 AM   #39
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But Krishna can convince you he had zero beliefs.
It would be hard for me to believe a guy trying to convince me of something he doesn't believe.

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Old 07-30-2012, 02:57 AM   #40
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Re: Is having beliefs about things we don't know stupid?

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Assume is a better word but not the best.

Everything should be thought of in terms of probabilities. Then you act based on them. But you don't always assume the most likely posibility when choosing that action.

How is that not obvious to the readers of a poker website?
An assumption, in propability terms, is setting p=1 to simplify the rest of the calculations.

For instance, in your books, you don't muddy the waters by considering the small possibility that the cards might like or dislike you on some certain Tuesday evening. You set the odds that they behave randomly at 1.

More importantly, given that the equations of normal day-to-day stuff are quite complex, making assumptions (setting p=1) is a useful tool.
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:19 AM   #41
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It would be hard for me to believe a guy trying to convince me of something he doesn't believe.

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I completely agree with you and stand by my claim about him
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:28 AM   #42
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I completely agree with you and stand by my claim about him
Thread is getting fun :-)
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