Entanglement, Gravitational Tunneling and Parallel Universes

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04-07-2017 , 07:53 PM

longmissedblind

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Essentially, entanglement involves two particles, each occupying multiple states at once – a condition referred to as superposition. For example, both particles may simultaneously spin clockwise and counterclockwise. But neither has a definite state until one is measured, causing the other particle to instantly assume a corresponding state. [...] But what enables particles to communicate instantaneously – and seemingly faster than the speed of light – over such vast distances? Earlier this year, physicists proposed an answer in the form of “wormholes,” or gravitational tunnels.

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Would I still be justified in having an open mind wrt Parallel Universes if this theory is proven?

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04-07-2017 , 08:01 PM

BrianTheMick2

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I cannot see why not. Might as well keep an open mind about perpendicular universes too.

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04-07-2017 , 09:51 PM

VeeDDzz`

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It is true that in ALL possible universes, every thing can be known by the difference or likeness to another.

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04-07-2017 , 10:30 PM

VeeDDzz`

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True that in ALL possible universes the principle of sufficient reason pressuposes every thing.

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04-07-2017 , 11:39 PM

Howard Beale

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Why do you combine the two? I don't think that one has anything to do w/ the other from what I read. Btw, now there's a proposal that there are ??????? how many parallel universes that interact w/ each other.

http://www.iflscience.com/physics/ph...-and-interact/

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04-08-2017 , 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard Beale

Why do you combine the two?

I don't. Metaphysical truth need not justification.

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04-08-2017 , 12:23 AM

plaaynde

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OP, thanks for the article. They may be on to something. What if that is the start of the new physics? Intuitively it fits Occam's razor better than whole parallel universes popping up all the time. And gravity may not be as basic as viewed, not the speed of light thing restricting the truly basic things either.

But keep an open eye for parallel universes. Many different kinds have been proposed, one or several of those variants may exist.

An interesting passus from the article of OP:

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Using holographic duality, Sonner derived the entangled quarks, and found that what emerged was a wormhole connecting the two, implying that the creation of quarks simultaneously creates a wormhole. More fundamentally, the results suggest that gravity may, in fact, emerge from entanglement. What’s more, the geometry, or bending, of the universe as described by classical gravity, may be a consequence of entanglement, such as that between pairs of particles strung together by tunneling wormholes.

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04-08-2017 , 08:20 PM

longmissedblind

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This evidence supports pretty much my whole idea of the origin of the universe. Basically there was a wavefunction ball-in-a-cup where entangled energies filled the distance of the universe slowly and matter boiled into existence upon breakthru or rebounding of the crossing wavefunction barriers that combined to form this plasma. It does away with inflation nicely as well as explaining where our expanding universe might be expanding to... the state of temperature ( or non-trivial wavefunction ) here prior to ~14B years ago.

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04-08-2017 , 09:20 PM

plaaynde

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Here's some more on the subject, New Scientist 26 July 2013: http://freelanceastrophysicist.com/w...-Scientist.pdf

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The connection between entanglement and wormholes was first proposed a month ago. Its backstory, however, began in 2009, when Mark Van Raamsdonk at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada, proposed a way to connect the bendy space-time of general relativity, Einstein's theory of gravity, with quantum mechanics, which usually assumes an unrealistic, rigid space-time.

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