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05-14-2016 , 03:21 AM
Welcome to the 2016 NBA Western Conference Finals



We thought we were going to be gifted a chessmatch series between two historically-talented teams. It was time, after Popovich 'purposely losing' in the regular season to conceal his bag of tricks, to see what would be unleashed against Curry.



Well, tough luck. The Thunder have decided to smuck all that up by defeating the 67-win Spurs on their home court twice. Who saw that coming? Not 2+2, that's for sure.



Some say this is a shame for the game of basketball. Anatta would advise us to let go and move on, young grasshopper. It's ripe for a new narrative and it's one, upon further inspection, that might not be so bad. Don't be like Baltimore Jones.

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Enjoy the rest of the season everyone!
Come and take a seat.




These are the teams.

Fun Fact:
GSW and OKC are #1 & #2 in points per game in the regular season


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THE OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER



The Thunder are young and athletic and long and energetic. They have two top-5 players on their team. Their upset win has filled them with momentum, they are playing in fine form, and for the first time in years, healthy. They are also rid of Scottie Brooks. Some doubted first year coach Billy Donovan but he showed chops by defeating Popovich in a series. It took a Kyle Singler injury to bench him but Billy's finally got it. It's in good time.



As the season series stands, the Thunder are down in the hole 0-3. Don't let that fool you, though. OKC was tied or winning in the 4th quarter in all of those games. Remember the second game? The one where Durant fouled out and then...



No one knows that games are 48 minutes long better than the Thunder this season. They who have been just terrible closing out games in the regular season. But we also just watched them stick out some gritty wins over the Spurs. Has this team, so reckless and fun when they lost to Cleveland, finally turned the curve and matured?

Fun Fact:
This series has the last three scoring champions. 2016 Curry (30.1ppg), 2015 Westbrook (28.1ppg), 2014 Durant (32ppg).


Let's meet the team.

Kevin Durant


Durant is the leading scorer in the playoffs and he's scorched on the Warriors this season. It's a small sample size but Durant's averaged 36.3/12.0/6.3/2 through three games. He'll probably need to keep this up and break his playoff career high of 41 this series if they hope to win. Of course, a lot of this will depend on whether his friend will be willing to give him the ball...

Russell Westbrook


Will we see Pass-guard Westbrook? Or will we get Westbrick? RWB has had some terrible games but then again, he's had some great games this playoff. Of the players left, RWB is 3assist/game up on them. He's also leading them in turnovers. Which side will come out? Whichever it is, Durant and the rest of the team have made it clear: they will live by Bestbrook, die by Worstbrook.

The Stash Bros


If the Thunder are worried about the Splash Bros, the Warriors will have to think long and hard about the Stash Bros. Standing erect at 7 feet and 6'11", Billy Donovan has experimented putting both these men in at the same time. On offence, Adams is a powerful crasher and Kanter has delicate hands for the finish. When they come together to attack the boards against the Spurs, they managed to win a lot of extra possessions. Remember, the Thunder led rebounds this season. How will the Warriors' small balls adjust if these two decide to pack the paint?

The Rest of the Cast:




-- Will Ibaka sink his mid-range and provide rim-protection?
-- Can Andre Roberson slow Curry down? Will he get the Tony Allen treatment?
-- What can Dion Waiters bring to the table?

BONUS:




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THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS



It's been a fun season for the Warriors. The 73-9, the back-to-back MVP's, all that is Draymond Green. That said, this Thunder team might be the most talented opponents Steve Kerr and his team has ever faced in the post-season. Are these guys worried?

Steph Curry


The unanimous MVP. There was a moment, you might remember, when we all worried whether the 2016 playoffs would be forever tarnished.



Slipping on Montejunas's ass sweat, Mr. Curry suffered a MCL sprain that took him out for two weeks. We thought it'd be trouble for GSW facing the Clipp- Trail Blazers and whether he would be back in time for the Spur- Thunder. Considering he decided to drop 17 points in OT, you might say that he's got more WIM than that other MVP point guard that suffered some leg injury for his number one seed team in the first round who has children to care for....



He's here! He's back!

Klay Thompson


How high can we get? We saw that Klay was capable of working even when Curry is out. He's shooting .475% from three this post-season and averaging 27+ points a game. I'm sure he prefers the good life with Curry back in, though.

Draymond Green


How many Technical Fouls will Draymond Green not get? How many moving screens will he get away with? How wide can he open his mouth?

The Rest of the Cast:





-- Will Bogut be able to play and help his team in the paint?
-- Iguodala has been relatively quiet. What will we see from him?
-- Can Livingston run a second offence? Will he try to post-up Westbrook?

BONUS



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This prop bet has found quite action among several already.

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
also @kidcolin ya $50 on that....GS wins in 5 or less and you win. Anything else I win. Series canceled due to Russ hurting Steph's feeling with supreme athletic domination and I win as well. If the series gets canceled for other reasons, it still gets filed under that.

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Last edited by Wrane; 05-14-2016 at 03:27 AM.
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05-14-2016 , 03:59 AM
One of the best OP's I've seen here, well done.

I got Woyas in 5 but desperately want to see this one go the distance. Second would be Adams tilting Draymond into a few elbows, which will end up as flagrant twos after the fact because Steven Adams doesn't feel pain.

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05-14-2016 , 04:24 AM
GS in 5 no probrem
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05-14-2016 , 04:59 AM







Last edited by Golfing_Stud; 05-14-2016 at 05:05 AM. Reason: Curry parents.
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05-14-2016 , 11:14 AM
You the real MVP
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05-14-2016 , 11:18 AM
Warriors in 5.


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05-14-2016 , 11:22 AM
great OP. thanks for showing that billy donovan, in fact, has always looked like a vampire

oh, and state in 7
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05-14-2016 , 11:23 AM
Great OP.
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05-14-2016 , 12:18 PM
Really good OP. Can't wait to read all the posts about Dray not getting called for (technical) fouls.
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05-14-2016 , 12:20 PM
I hope the series is as good as the OP.
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05-14-2016 , 01:36 PM
I hope it goes 7 and all games are amazing because this is truly the best series. Cavs just can't bring the drama and firepower that OKC can.
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05-14-2016 , 01:47 PM
Great OP

Warriors in 5 is the pretty easy answer, but I'm gonna play devil's advocate and list a few reasons why the Thunder might match up pretty well vs GS.

1) Westbrook could make Steph work. Now, it's very possible if not likely the Warriors will counter by cross matching Klay on RWB and hide Steph on Roberson. This creates an advantage in itself bc RWB will guard Steph ftmp and the Thunder, Westbrook especially, like to go fast off of misses - hell even makes sometimes. Cross matching in transition is extremely difficult. But the times Steph does get matched up vs Westbrook on D Russ will take him into the post and make him work. The #1 way to affect Steph's GOAT shooting isn't how Oscar Robertson said to and "pick him up at half court", it's to make him work on D and make his legs tired.

2) The Thunder big lineup- with Kanter & Adams- is, at the least, intriguing. There's a very wide range of possibilities using this lineup could result in, it could absolutely blow up in their face. But you can't outsmall the Warriors, they're too good at it and if you try to fight fire with fire it's gonna blow up in your face, even with the ultimate small ball weapon in Durant. Going un-traditionally big is something few have tried. The Cavs did a little with Mozgov & TT and were surprisingly successful absolutely blitzing the offensive glass. Kanter & Adams have their flaws, but they should be able to crush the offensive glass with similar, if not better success.

3) Draymond's defensive versatility is sort of neutralized vs the Thunder. As everyone knows, Draymond is extremely special on D, quick enough with good enough instincts to hang with most guards, while strong enough with a great lower center of gravity to bang with most bigs, he really is the ultimate swiss army knife on D. The Thunder though, have two stars that Draymond will, at the least, struggle to defend with. Westbrook is arguably the fastest guy in the league, when Dray gets switched onto him he just won't be able to stay in front, Westbrook also is incredible strong for a guard and Draymond won't be able to bully him like he would a Kyrie or CP3. Durant is just freakishly tall, Draymond has the strength advantage to force him into bad/tough spots, but he isn't nearly as tall or long, and Durant, an extremely skilled shooter, can shoot over him wherever and whenever he wants. The answer to these problems for the Warriors of course is Iguodala, and the Warriors are gonna depend on him mightily. He's certainly up to the task but if he struggles or shows his age that could hurt the Warriors a lot.

Still, the Warriors didn't win 73 games for nothin, and the thing is, even if the Thunder exploit these edges efficiently, they still might not win bc the Warriors can simply outscore you. I think this could be the best series of the playoffs assuming the Cavs cool off, I'm very much lookin forward to watching it.
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05-14-2016 , 02:03 PM
In for teh moving screens and Dray rage.




I'm a homer so I got Dubs in 6 but OKC has a shot. If KD plays like he does normally versus them and Russ breaks out of his funk it's gonna be close.

Last edited by ALLTheCookies; 05-14-2016 at 02:12 PM.
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05-14-2016 , 02:03 PM
I just think the Thunder going big with Adams + Kanter is likely to blow up in their face. So often even if they can crash the boards and get extra possessions/putbacks, it'll result in them trading 2 for 3. That lineup will struggle to defend the perimeter so badly that GSW will just outscore them.


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05-14-2016 , 02:11 PM
Summary of action / for my own tracking purposes when it comes time to collect.

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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Woyas crush in 5 and maybe sweep. Not sure anyone realizes what a different plane GSW is on compared to okc. They're going to absolutely crush them.
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
I'll bet on it not going 6 or 7. I've been on the wrong end of every playoff bet thus far so line up and cash in.
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

also @kidcolin ya $50 on that....GS wins in 5 or less and you win. Anything else I win.
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Originally Posted by darO
I would like some of this action
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Fiddy or hundo. Choose your own demise.

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Hundo
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booked
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KC,

I'll go $50 on that bet if you want more action.
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Sure why not. Booked.
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I'll take a hundo if you're not closed up on this yet. Would be PP.
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Lezgo
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
booked.
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05-14-2016 , 02:25 PM
OP incomplete without some Mo Buckets.






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05-14-2016 , 02:29 PM
This is going to be a good series. I am very curious to see if Adams/Kanter line-up can hold up on defense against Warriors. Spurs got some good looks out of putting Kanter into the pick and roll, but the guards weren't really playing well enough to routinely exploit it.

Westbrook is super lazy coming around screens and Kanter is in trouble if you can pull him up the floor and force him to recover. I think the warriors will go after him hard enough to erase the offensive rebounding advantage on the other end, but it will be fun to watch.

Will also be a good test to see if Adams is really as much of a beast as he looked against the Spurs bigs. If he can defend the rim as well as he did last series and punish Warriors small line-up as the roll man, the series could be great.

Another point to consider -- Kerr simply can't get away with playing some of the terrible line-ups he has gotten away with so far. Varejao over Ezeli will be death against any Thunder line-up, and Clark minutes need to be pared way back. I'm hoping he moves more towards the sort of line-ups he started going to midway through the finals. Bogut might need to be stapled to the bench again and Durant is going to roast non-Iggy defenders as badly as Bron did.
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05-14-2016 , 02:36 PM
Steph will probably ask to guard to Westbrook, but Kerr would be smart just to begin with Klay on him. I'm not sure the cross-matching will work in the Thunder's favor either. Westbrook might get a few more easy buckets off of it in transition, but he also has a tendency to jog back on the break. If he isn't close to his man it's going to lead to some killer Steph threes.
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05-14-2016 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
Great OP

Warriors in 5 is the pretty easy answer, but I'm gonna play devil's advocate and list a few reasons why the Thunder might match up pretty well vs GS.

1) Westbrook could make Steph work. Now, it's very possible if not likely the Warriors will counter by cross matching Klay on RWB and hide Steph on Roberson. This creates an advantage in itself bc RWB will guard Steph ftmp and the Thunder, Westbrook especially, like to go fast off of misses - hell even makes sometimes. Cross matching in transition is extremely difficult. But the times Steph does get matched up vs Westbrook on D Russ will take him into the post and make him work. The #1 way to affect Steph's GOAT shooting isn't how Oscar Robertson said to and "pick him up at half court", it's to make him work on D and make his legs tired.

2) The Thunder big lineup- with Kanter & Adams- is, at the least, intriguing. There's a very wide range of possibilities using this lineup could result in, it could absolutely blow up in their face. But you can't outsmall the Warriors, they're too good at it and if you try to fight fire with fire it's gonna blow up in your face, even with the ultimate small ball weapon in Durant. Going un-traditionally big is something few have tried. The Cavs did a little with Mozgov & TT and were surprisingly successful absolutely blitzing the offensive glass. Kanter & Adams have their flaws, but they should be able to crush the offensive glass with similar, if not better success.

3) Draymond's defensive versatility is sort of neutralized vs the Thunder. As everyone knows, Draymond is extremely special on D, quick enough with good enough instincts to hang with most guards, while strong enough with a great lower center of gravity to bang with most bigs, he really is the ultimate swiss army knife on D. The Thunder though, have two stars that Draymond will, at the least, struggle to defend with. Westbrook is arguably the fastest guy in the league, when Dray gets switched onto him he just won't be able to stay in front, Westbrook also is incredible strong for a guard and Draymond won't be able to bully him like he would a Kyrie or CP3. Durant is just freakishly tall, Draymond has the strength advantage to force him into bad/tough spots, but he isn't nearly as tall or long, and Durant, an extremely skilled shooter, can shoot over him wherever and whenever he wants. The answer to these problems for the Warriors of course is Iguodala, and the Warriors are gonna depend on him mightily. He's certainly up to the task but if he struggles or shows his age that could hurt the Warriors a lot.

Still, the Warriors didn't win 73 games for nothin, and the thing is, even if the Thunder exploit these edges efficiently, they still might not win bc the Warriors can simply outscore you. I think this could be the best series of the playoffs assuming the Cavs cool off, I'm very much lookin forward to watching it.
think point 1 is very wrong. rwb can't guard curry, never has been able to. not meant to be a knock on him, but this comes up every time they play. as for point 3, i agree westbrook and durant are hard to guard, but green's defensive versatility will matter a lot precisely for that reason

edit: durant is gonna do what he wants b/c he is durant. the woyas have given rwb problems
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05-14-2016 , 05:45 PM
In. Woyas in 6.
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05-14-2016 , 06:10 PM
Good OP, I actually read this one. I got Woyas in 6 too.
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05-14-2016 , 08:27 PM
im going with OKC in 7. bogut not 100 percent is an issue for warriors. i think OKC goes big again like they did vs spurs with kanter and adams and just punish the warriors on the glass. steven adams is legit, going to be real hard for draymond to deal with if warriors want to play small.

im pretty sure okc starters beat warriors starters in the regular season, with those minutes increased also something that hurts warriors.
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05-14-2016 , 08:36 PM
think woyas in 6 btw
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05-14-2016 , 08:43 PM
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im going with OKC in 7. bogut not 100 percent is an issue for warriors. i think OKC goes big again like they did vs spurs with kanter and adams and just punish the warriors on the glass. steven adams is legit, going to be real hard for draymond to deal with if warriors want to play small.

im pretty sure okc starters beat warriors starters in the regular season, with those minutes increased also something that hurts warriors.
I didn't know it possible to pack a post with this much dumb. Sure, OKC in 7 maybe, but not because of these reasons.
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05-14-2016 , 08:47 PM
i think he's sorta right, but not really. starters got put into some holes, mostly b/c bogut got tossed around a bit. he has kinda gotten trashed by the thunder this season. thunder frontline is too athletic for him it seems. ezeli is better in this mu imo. his absence was felt pretty severely on the glass in a couple of those games. they def outscored the woyas when bogut was on the floor, but they didn't outscore the woyas with curry/green on the floor.
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