stfu ambush and stop crying already

Marty bangs around so hard in the paint and I love it. Lol united.

lol GTFO with this nonsense you were the one who started getting arsey with your "pundits hate him" dribble.

At no point did I claim what Mourinho did was a tactical masterstroke but the fact that it completely nullified you meant he was right to do it.

lol@ if we had been a bit sharper it wouldn't have been a problem. Did you even have a shot that wasn't from outside the box or create 1 clear chance? Ajax were awful and deserved to lose.

I was, not clearly enough apparently, mimicking a clickbait type article* as simple and dumb as your statement to express my disagreement. When you seemed to ignore what I actually said, I explained why I disagreed.

I can see how it confused you as a lot of pundits probably do actually dislike Mourinho, don't know how it is in England. Sorry for triggering you.

guy loses weight using simple tricks, doctors hate him -> guy solves football using long balls, pundits hate him. Number xx will surprise you -> number 27** is especially horrid.
**I thought it was obvious I meant long ball receiver extraordinaire MF27.


You did actually claim that "playing long balls meant Ajax had no answer", but teams play long balls against us all the time and playing long balls barely had anything to do with why were nullified offensively and even less with why we lost the game.

I mean that the long balls would not at all have been a problem.

A long ball into a siege tower (way outside the box) is nothing in and of itself, it was only somewhat useful because the followup ball was hardly fought for by Ajax and so it let United easily keep possession. And I say somewhat useful because I can't even recall a chance being created from those situations.

I never denied that Ajax were awful and deserved to lose. Stop muddying the waters by yelling things as if I said otherwise.

For the record, I think Uniteds tactics were bad. Just found it very odd to see you praise their playing of long balls when it was hardly innovative, hard or a key factor in winning this particular game.

I'm well aware of you mimicking a clickbait type article but lol@ my statements being dumb, every tactical insight you've posted is covered in butthurt and fails a simple eye test to anyone who watched the game. Lol@ you calling anyone triggered btw.

Do the teams who usually play long balls against you have a target man like Fellaini or Pogba/Herrera in CM to win all the 2nd balls? LOL@ claiming Ajax barely competed for them, just more butthurt Pogba/Herrera mopped them up like Jose or any neutral knew they would. I'm this "isn't usually a problem" in your tinpot league though.

And yes the long balls played a key part in why you got nullified defensively because you couldn't press our CB's or the first pass into CM's. At every point we had a minimum of 2 CMs sheilding the back 4 because they didn't need to take up positions they otherwise might have if we were playing from the back or be vulnerable to turnovers.

That was a must win game for United/Mourinho from both a financial and sporting perspective, it was worth minimum £50m so I don't particularly care about what tactics he used as long as he got the result. In the long run Mourinho will have to produce better football/performances to keep his job and knows it himself.

Yeah pretty much this. I don't particularly care about the performance or the aesthetics of it in this particular one off final.

Seriously doubt the second line though, he's never changing his approach. We just have to suck it up and hope it brings some (more important) silverware while he's here.

So browsing the last page or so it seems that people are mad that Utd didnt play to Ajax's strengths. Like how dare Utd set up their team to counter Ajax

I'm mad because it's another wasted 45 mins of my life I'm never getting back (yes I switched off at HT like I have done for most Jose teams games from his last 18 months at Chelsea).

Honestly don't think I've watched 1 full UTD game this season apart from the bore draw with Liverpool.

It's a Jose problem, negative ****er. Easily overlooked if he was managing Stoke or whatever but not ****ing Chelsea with oil billions or UTD the self acclaimed biggest bogroll holder traders in the world.

Spent ~£500m since Fergie and this is the result, pure unadulterated keek. Enjoy EL win and being bored to tears all next season no matter how much more money they spend.

Perhaps Brentan can take note and maybe Celtic can start winning away in Europe

it's easily overlooked once you win the CL multiple times, the portuguese/italian/english/spanish leagues etc.

Chelsea fan never knew about winning, can't blame them for accepting it at any cost. UTD fans not the same, they want better.

Ffs he got kicked out of Madrid for it and Chelsea.

And as I neutral I haven't got 2 hrs to waste watching his turgid ****.

he got kicked out when he didn't get the results, not because fans didn't like the style with which he got results

You'll have an answer to defend him no matter what I post.

Jose Mourinho, ruining European finals since 2003.

I'm sure he's upset that he's won 4/4 European finals.

We didn't even play ugly football all season. We were set up very attacking lots this year until the end of the season. We just missed a billion chances so our goal tally doesn't reflect that.

We'll leave it here....

Yes, we've been shocking in front of goal this year. Along with a few keepers having the game of their lives.

We did bus it up away to plop, can't recall any other games other than that until the end of the season. Possibly the tactics against Chelsea but that was working great until the harsh red as proven a few weeks later when it worked perfectly.

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Marty thats harsh on all of us!!

3 trophies

3 trophies lol

look here's the thing, when mourinho's team is 5x better than the oppo he'll send them out to deliver a beating, and they often are 5x better since he's spent by far the most money of any manager in history

but if the oppo is anywhere close to the same level then its little horse time

121 goals against las paellas & co aside i'm guessing the madrid folk got tired of having 30% possession and losing every time they faced barca, and that is possibly one of the reasons he got slung out

actually, even in his last season when the train was completely off the rails, he was still beating barça,he had a terrific head-to-head record against them. i'm sure he's an idiot though, should have played beautiful football against them.

3 wins & 5 losses in 13 games is a terrific h2h record itt

anyway i dont think it was just the regularity of the losses. you cant be real madrid manager with a team built around the second best player oat and go out to try to win games vs your main rival by sitting deep and kicking the opponents all game. the end-boss GHWs over at the bernabeu were never going to put up with that for very long were they

he had to go

a) those numbers aren't right
b) they won a CL playing like that, not under Mourinho, but the team kept the counter-attacking identify with Ancelotti. We've talked about this very recently itt

Didn't he lose like 5-0 in his first clasico when he tried this?

(I get that you're being sarcastic)