I'd probably take the over on Snedeker as well.

Simple answer could be golf isn't life for Rory McIlroy and that seems to be the case for a lot of these ultra talented golfers these days... DUSTIN JOHNSON! They don't need golf, but they're pretty good at it, they get paid well to do it and if they bink a tournament especially a Major or two icing.

Jason Day over 1.5 seems like free money.

Everybody overlooking the possibility that WIL is a sexually transmitted disease, in which case Rory is absolutely done

he should probably win one before he can win them all

He changed all of his equipment.

+1

Rory peeps,

This is generally a data driven forum, no? So show your work. I'll start. Using data from 2009 through today, Rory has:

Averaged 96th in Total Driving, peak of 21st
Averaged 81st in Greens in Regulation, peak of 28th
Averaged 115th in Scrambling, peak of 33rd
Averaged 124th in Strokes Gained Putting, peak of 82nd

He doesn't do anything really well. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many players with comparable stats across their career who won multiple majors. Which makes it more likely that he just ran super hot for a period of time.

Your argument is basically RANGZ THO.

It's really hard to win majors. When trying to predict who has the possibility of winning majors in the future, it makes sense to take the higher variance player who has proven that he can put it all together (physically and mentally) for 4 straight days and beast a major vs. the best competition.

This is a good call. I don't know that I would take the over, but he's a guy I'd have to think hard about.

To do the same stat work over the same period I just did for Rory:

Total Driving: Avg 41st, peak 2
GIR: 45th, peak of 1
Scrambling: 44th, peak of 13th
Strokes Gained: 99th, peak of 53rd

He does everything but putt at an above average rate, with some really high peaks obv (and in last couple of years) in the ball striking stats.

Luckily for Justin there isn't much truth in the putt for dough and drive for show mantra.

His ball striking will take him a long way, and when he has decent putting weeks he will be in the mix a lot.

Your Boss,

I would snap take the over of 1.5 for Rory because I think he will get hot again. Hes already proved he can win majors. Not only that, but he did it in style, both times winning by a substantial margin.

He changed all his equipment this year and is still trying to gain confidence. There are going to be ppl who say switching to Nike has nothing to do with his poor year, but I would beg to differ. I don't think its just that, probably more of a combination of things, but its pretty clear to me that he is struggling with all the changes he has made regarding his equipment.

Look at Jordan Speith. He could have signed a deal with any club manufacturer when he turned pro, but he knew how important it was to have the freedom to hit whatever clubs he liked. Pretty good move, imo.

Yeah, good point. I would take the over on 1.5 here as well

Thread is just over 3 years old and still stuck on 14 with several blown chances. Lol at the idea that Tiger getting to Jack is a lock.

This is like the most casualfan.jpg argument ever

are you claiming youre an ADVANCED GOLF FAN?

Golf is the most mental "sport" there is. If a guy dominated two majors at a very young age, he undoubtedly has more of a chance of being able to repeat that in the future than some other guy who has a better aggregate of whatever these stats are

I'm not saying that Rory is going to have better year-long results than the guys who have these better ADVANCED STATS, but in terms of projecting future MAJORS, rory>>>most of them

Nailed it!

This is all well and good, except that his statistics are not all that different than they were in 2011-2012 when he had his hot streak.

If it was equipment, you would expect that his driving stats would be worse (they aren't), that his GIR's would be worse (they aren't), that his scrambling would be worse (it isn't), that his putting would be worse (it's not), and on and on.

Here are the guys who have finished on either side of him in the rankings for some of these major stats over the last few years:

Total Driving: Ryan Palmer, Ryan Moore, Jeff Maggert, DJ Trahan, Bo Van Pelt, Bill Haas

GIR: Charl Schwartzel, Jimmy Walker, Scott Stallings, Charley Hoffman, Dustin Johnson, Davis Love

Strokes Gained: Ernie Els, Michael Thomson, Ian Poulter, Roberto Castro, John Rollins, Kenny Perry


Take from that what you will, but statistically he's not in good company.

RANGZ gets mocked in sports like baseball where a player has a very small impact on his team's performance. Golf is an individual ****ing sport, how does MAJORS won not mean a ton when evaluating who can win majors in the future????

Ask any Tiger hater ever, I guess. Majors are just as hard to win as any other tournament with similar-strength fields

Very true. The equipment issue is debatable. I think it effects his confidence more than anything.

Doesnt mean he won't get hot and win a couple more though. He's young, has his whole career ahead of him and already bagged 2 majors by multiple shots each time. That and his age lead me to believe he will get past this little draught and go on to win more majors.

So you would bet the under at 1.5?

Majors are harder to win, and a lot of tournaments don't have similar-strength fields so that's pretty irrelevant.

People under estimating confidence in this thread. C yall in the future hick hick

I wouldn't be too worried about Rory's stats, when he brings his game, he is an elite player. I'm sure he'll evaluate where things are going soon and re dedicate himself, the levels of WIL are pretty clear this year.

More worried about his mental weakness, 9 wins on Euro/US tour in 6 years is pathetic for him with his talent when playing well, blown so many events in those 6 years with good chances of winning. 2012 he won a few tournaments in the heat of battle on a Sunday when things were tight in the playoff tournaments but other than that he's been very unimpressive mostly on Sunday. Yeah won 2 majors by 8 but had a good advantage. Think he has played around 50 tournaments on European soil as a pro and never won, amazing stat imo.

This is wrong. Way more pressure in the majors than any other tournament. More pressure = harder to win.

Is adderall a banned substance?