loooooooool simba and house slamming in-n-out - coldest take they've had yet

Hahahaha down to 420k in October

Hard to believe "what had bigger impact, comet from deep impact or crane kick from karate kid" isn't reeling in them page views.

http://deadspin.com/bill-simmons-isn...ail-1788556607

Just A+ Sports Journalism.

That Ryan stuff is real? Holy ****. I want to go search it, but I don't want to reward the ringer a page view for that drivel.

The ringer functions in a bubble where they are writing for the 50 or so other hipsters that they work with. The groupthink over there must be so awful. An outsider walking into that office must feel like they've met an alien race.

Yeah, Grantland would go off the deep end on **** like this too, but at least Zach Lowe could save them.

I listened to the Simmons-Collinsworth pod. After Collinsworth, Simmons talked to one of his writers about New Orleans stuff. I'm from New Orleans but turned it off after 5 minutes. Dude was terrible and awkward.

South Park needs to dedicate a season to The Ringer.

I'm afraid Shae Sorrano is un-satirizable

pretty good description of The Ringer
(and Simmons these days tbh)

but bizarrely, pretty sure that's what they're going for here

like there's a mass market for completely random pop culture articles?

ya pretty much

and i can't find it now, but thought i read somewhere that The Ringer's staff is larger than Grantland's
(which seemed pretty bloated, despite Simba's whining)

anyway, gl with all that...

Deadspin has 10-15 million unique views with about 15 on staff.

The Ringer has 43 writers on its masthead and 400k unique visitors last month

Bill with Grantland reminded me of some faculty member bitching that their department needed more funding and would point to the football program as waste.

He would go on and on about how he didn't get the support he needed.

It's like he thought it should've been like a ESPN2 to ESPN1 relationship.

Simmons had a couple decent criticisms of ESPN, if it's true that they refused to promote any Grantland stuff on the main espn.com page, and how they failed to listen to him about monetizing podcasts (iirc these were from before he torched all his bridges there), but obv he lost everyone when he whined about how hard they worked and understaffed they were, when compared to like every other site in the world they had a gigantic roster.

Wow; yikes.

Is there a good metric for how much a unique visitor is worth in ad revenue?

I have to imagine BSPN is subsidizing the ringer at this point?

I mean the ringers page views can't support like shae soprano by himself. Doubt stamps dot com can pull him out of that hole

HBO separately invested in Ringer in addition to lighting 8 million a year on fire for Simba, not sure how long that can last though. Doesn't look too promising. Maybe Shae can start Fact Checking the Fact Checking articles and spur some traffic

Yeah it's hard to imagine the pods aren't wildly profitable but I doubt they're covering the overhead of the site. Wouldn't be surprising if Bill is paying some out of his own pocket at this point.

They should fact chart the Ringer's annual financial statement, I'd probably actually read that

He's gotta do a fact check of the inevitable Simmons article when the Ringer gets shut down.

laffff

That stuff about the Ryans is some of the worst **** I've ever read.

Terrible poker session. Come home. Smoke a joint, turn on sportscenter, and wait for cfb coverage. I saw about 12 commercials and a 6-7 minute clip of Stadia Azteca talking in 1st person about itself in an effort to advertise MNF. DIE.

was there psilocybin in that joint?

Felt like it. The "stadium" had an accent not unlike Triumph the dog. It was surreal.

Simba: “The best thing about making content in 2016 - if you have good content, people are going to find it no matter who you are and where you are.”
Fact check: True! The Ringer lost $25M in Q4.

Today Serrano had a Zach Lavine article. I did not know it was Serrrano when I clicked the link from Simmons twitter feed. I like Lavine, and Tjarks and O'Connor write some decent stuff so I thought I'd take my chances. Turns out the article was a script involving Lavine being in a relationship with gravity. As I furiously scrolled through what I have to assume is garbage all I could think of was this thread.

Serrano is the worst. The ringer is the worst. How do they think people want to read this ****?