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03-25-2017 , 08:25 AM

#9501

8bus

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Lol

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03-25-2017 , 08:26 AM

#9502

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it's absurd to expect the coach of players who get paid 20 millions a year to want to keep them healthy

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03-25-2017 , 11:30 AM

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Show me an instance of a star player getting hurt because he played too much.

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03-25-2017 , 12:33 PM

#9504

lloyd45

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Wow at how badly bill forced the celtics talk at the end of the Kevin O'Conner podcast

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03-25-2017 , 01:44 PM

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Show me an instance of a star player getting hurt because he played too much.

I'm sure there are instances of this happening, but you're missing the point. More games=more chance of an injury. How can you argue otherwise? Even if no one ever got hurt due to the vague "playing too much" it still increases the risk of it happening for essentially no reason other than whiny fans and media who are blowing it out of proportion.

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03-25-2017 , 01:51 PM

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Show me an instance of a star player getting hurt because he played too much.

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03-25-2017 , 01:55 PM

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I also think about TMac and Jermaine O'Neal and how they got old seemingly overnight in their early 30s.

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03-25-2017 , 01:58 PM

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Yao is the obvious example, but Eddy's position is so dumb that it doesn't really merit serious debate.

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03-25-2017 , 02:01 PM

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Well Yao and Brandon Roy are different imo. You could limit their minutes and their bodies were still always going to betray them, same with Oden or Embiid.

Derrick Rose is a literal example, there was no reason for him to be in the game when he got hurt. They were up like 12 with a minute and a half to go or something.

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03-25-2017 , 02:23 PM

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I guess being freaks of nature and abnormally tall increases the chance of injury.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but before Popovich started doing this, teams still won championships right?

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03-25-2017 , 02:24 PM

#9511

DodgerIrish

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Not the teams with the hurt players.

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03-25-2017 , 02:33 PM

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eddy is being disingenuous and if not then he's just really dumb

i'm sure pop monitoring rest for 10+ years has nothing to do with duncan and ginobli playing until 39

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03-25-2017 , 02:33 PM

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Yao is the obvious example, but Eddy's position is so dumb that it doesn't really merit serious debate.

Gonna have to show me how a rare infection has anything to do with how many games of basketball you played.

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03-25-2017 , 02:38 PM

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Not the teams with the hurt players.

Yeah that's kind of part of playing sports. There are injuries, some guys can keep playing, and others can't. The team whose guys battled and sustained themselves through the season typically were most successful.

I bet if we look back pre 2000, almost every team that won the championship, the star player, played at least 79 games.

If the NBA wants to have every body 100%, just fold the season and do a 32 team single elimination tournament every year. 5 rounds, 3 weeks off between games, winner is the NBA champion. We all agree the regular season is pointless, so let's just get to the point.

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03-25-2017 , 02:48 PM

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even if they do make rules on resting, what's to stop teams from saying a guy twisted an ankle in shoot around and can't play

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03-25-2017 , 02:52 PM

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Nothing. Nothing will happen in the foreseeable future. NBA ratings are at an all time high, so it's not like they are losing viewers.

The more money these guys make, the less they will play, as crazy as that sounds.

Safe to say that Kareem's record is safe forever.

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03-25-2017 , 02:57 PM

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because the nba product right now is really, really good. espn/disney revving up the controversy echo chamber and making a mountain out of a molehill because of one warriors/spurs game in which 1 team rested and the other had 2 star players out with a concussion and a heart condition, respectively. puckered buttholes because they overpaid for licensing deals.

how many games of pure rest do players sit out a year on avg?

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03-25-2017 , 03:16 PM

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eddy is being disingenuous and if not then he's just really dumb

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03-25-2017 , 04:54 PM

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I also think about TMac and Jermaine O'Neal and how they got old seemingly overnight in their early 30s.

How well did they take care of their bodies? Did they have awful diets, minimum exercise/training, enough sleep, proper treament after games, did they take ice baths? I think this has a lot to do with why athletes in any sport that showed talent had short careers. Maurice Jones-Drew didn't drink soda, and he didn't eat steaks after Wed. E. Smith would get 2 hour deep tissue message, players sit in ice baths(which is insane).

There is nothing that can be done as of now that will change star players getting rest, it's just how it is.

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03-25-2017 , 05:03 PM

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Show me an instance of a star player getting hurt because he played too much.

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03-25-2017 , 05:04 PM

#9521

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Originally Posted by Buccofan86

"whiny fans" are the only reason the NBA exists.

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03-25-2017 , 05:19 PM

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"whiny fans" are the only reason the NBA exists.

Oh yeah, I'm sure playoff and finals ratings will tank due to LeBron sitting regular season game 43 in Memphis in January or whatever it was. People will cry about it and will still watch, and still pay up for tickets. Only real loser for now is the idiot networks who overpaid. Maybe the cap ends up going down or not rising as much, but so what? The Lakers paid huge money to Mozgov and Deng who aren't even seeing the court anymore. Maybe it's unsustainable to have the cap going up and up and up forever by huge % changes year over year. Doesn't mean the league will be busto or losing money any time soon

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03-25-2017 , 05:52 PM

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Oh yeah, I'm sure playoff and finals ratings will tank due to LeBron sitting regular season game 43 in Memphis in January or whatever it was.

Cool, so you agree with me.

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03-25-2017 , 06:01 PM

#9524

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players didn't need all this rest back in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.