i think it'd be hard to argue the tommen suicide was predictable. i mean it makes sense in hindsight, but i like how they did it without any fanfare, he just peaced out. im not sure what was lazy about it... bunch of stuff went bad, he could connect the dots, he is a coward and he cowarded it up.

i expect it threw cersei for a bit of a loop

it makes very little/no sense but that doesn't really matter, the throne owner is the person who has the power.

he's a 15 year old who has never had his own ability to act at all. He's not some aughts-era japanese boy. He's ****ing king. it's a hilarious piece of awful manufactured drama cuz they had no idea what to do with him otherwise and he would have been in the way of cersei ruling. that's it and that's all.

eta: aejones, who should be in line then? spell it out for us plebes. cersei certainly makes more sense than jamie. jamie is a nobody.

disagree ae, the most interesting part about Tommen being worse at falling than Bran was that Cersei wasn't even upset. She cried a lot when Joffrey and Myrcella died. Tommen? Burn the body, who cares really.

I don't think Tommen's suicide was lazy writing, but independently of the writing, it was really well done. I'm pretty sure it was copied off some independent 8h long italian movie i can't seem to recall the name right now, but it's very well done nonetheless.

Why would Varys need to return to Mareen? Maybe I forgot something

In fairness Tommen went against her a bunch. He had her sealed in the red keep.

Actually I don't really see a problem with this if you want to get rid of a character. "Why would he kill himself?" "He's a moody teen and his mom blew up his wife." Didn't everybody kind of know he was a goner sometime soon? He was a crap character.

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I agree he had to go. ultimately doesn't bother me much given this show is one giant deus ex machina. but i'm not going to praise how awesome it was.

if they really wanted to go gangsta on this, cersei/the mountain would have killed him for betraying the lannisters and standing in the way of her ruling. given her sentiment about the matter, this actually woulda been 1000% more fitting.

its been so long, guess I need to rewatch

I did think it was a little odd that Cersei didn't seem to give a **** about Tommen dying compared to the first two. I know for a while her whole thing was "would go through any lengths to protect her kids", so her last one getting got seemed like it'd have a larger effect. but him going against her and it leaving her as the queen makes it make more sense I guess?

that whole speech was amazing.

also, no idea why pied piper would hire the VC office drone. but she's cool I guess.

i love monica but hiring her doesnt make a lot of sense

not singling out your comment, but you guys are taking her reaction to much at face value. Just because she didn't break down crying doesn't mean she doesn't give a ****.

King's Landing sequence was really cool, and I also lol'd @ Varys personal Westeros/Essos ferry service.

Anyways, I thought it was a very good finale, and a fitting end to a season that got better as it went along (and off the top of my head, was way better than s5). But I'd have a hard time putting that episode in the top tier of all time TV episodes.

IMO, the final two episodes were very well executed, but fairly predictable with a couple of exceptions. I think the best thing the finale might have accomplished was that it had as much of a "here we go" feel as it did a season wrap-up. It seems like every season ends with white walkers closing in and/or Dany going somewhere with her dragons. But now that winter has come and the dragons are flying across the sea, these things are actually about to come to fruition, and don't just serve as some kind of cheap teaser. There should be very few slow moving parts going forward (with the exception of Sam of course, who will be shown reading books while Gilly and Sam Jr. wait in the lobby).

I think it has much less to do with what Tommen did to her, or her love for Tommen compared to Joffrey/Marcella, and more to do with the fact that she's completely lost her ****ing mind at this point. When the other two died, she still had a few scraps of humanity left.

Oh, and I'm still annoyed at the Littlefingah writing this season. "Sansa, everything I ever did was because I wanted you." How did selling her off to the biggest psycho in Westeros fit into that game plan?

Cersei accepted Tommen's death as inevitable because of the witch's prophecy.

Was a good episode to watch again while high

Yeah I'm really enjoying all the death and destruction. I feel the weed enhances the experience.

Cause I'm Genghis Khan and that was normal in my day. See x poster for details on such a person.

I know we're rightfully slurping GOT in here atm but the first episode of The Night Of was pretty f cool and I will be watching. Also, BODIE.

I thought it was a bit of a stretch for him to just insta jump out the the window without knowing exactly what happened, but I'm pretty sure the main reason was just that he was a total failure of a king. His listened to the high sparrow and betrayed his own mother and his decisions lead to massive casualties, the destruction of the sept, the death of his wife, and possibly also his mother (she was supposed to be there and Tommen not necessarily bright enough to assume that she wasn't).

Cersei looks like a Romulan since having her hair cut btw.

Starks need to off Littlefinger quicksmart

Sorry it didn't have any super plot twists kc. Maybe the can bring in M. Night Shyamalan to do the series finale.

The Tyrell's dead, Tommen suicide, Arya killing Frey, finding out Jon is a Targaryen... I'm sure KC predicted all of that in this thread somewhere right? Since it was beyond predictable and all.