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09-30-2013 , 01:01 PM
Well none of them were cut in half. Obviously it's not going to be like any other season in that regard.

They aren't the same as the full seasons 2,3,4 either though when split in half if you look at it from the opposite perspective.
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09-30-2013 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
it's like i can see the scene of walt's first kill in my head, but i have no clue who/when/where it was and it's bugging the hell outta me.

someone refresh my memory?
crazy 8 via bike lock in jesse's basement

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09-30-2013 , 01:24 PM
The thing about 3,4,5a, and 5b is that they're all so ridiculously good that while my rankings don't match up with many people's, I can't really argue with anyone because how can you?
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09-30-2013 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by schu_22
The thing about 3,4,5a, and 5b is that they're all so ridiculously good that while my rankings don't match up with many people's, I can't really argue with anyone because how can you?
+1
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09-30-2013 , 01:30 PM
5b>3>5a~=4>2>1 for me on first thought.
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09-30-2013 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise 60
I mean at least show your work a bit instead of posting about recency bias which doesn't really bring anything to the table
Mid circlejerk the day after the BB finale?

Probably wise to wait a little bit.
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09-30-2013 , 02:06 PM
Yeah, no amount of work shown would have been received well.
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09-30-2013 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
5b>3>5a~=4>2>1 for me on first thought.
exactly my sentiment

as schu said, seasons 3 through 5 are in an elevated tier and are effectively interchangeable depending on people's tastes and preferences
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09-30-2013 , 02:10 PM
If you compare BB to The Wire season to season I got:

S1 BB > The Wire
S2 BB < The Wire
S3 BB > The Wire
S4 BB < The Wire
S5 BB in a massive blowout
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09-30-2013 , 02:15 PM
Meanwhile....



I wonder if he's still just chillin' there
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09-30-2013 , 02:17 PM
^^ slow pony is slow.
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09-30-2013 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise 60
Man I was so rustled at the end of season 2
still the weakest moment of the show by a country mile. but no big deal in retrospect.

after last night, i was wondering if BB would be very rewatchable. I was thinking it wouldn't. But now 12+ hours later and I'm thinking a rewatch a year or two from now is gonna be sweet.
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09-30-2013 , 02:26 PM
10.3m viewers for the finale
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09-30-2013 , 02:26 PM
I was attempting to marathon Breaking Bad in its entirey earlier this year, hoping to be caught up by the premiere of season 5a

After the end of season 2 however, I stopped watching b/c my interest had waned and the finale felt too much like a jumping the shark moment

turns out that I would ultimately regret my decision, as Breaking Bad managed to reach an elevated trajectory the moment season 3 broke out of the gate

This scene from S3E7 "One Minute" was what really got my heart racing


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09-30-2013 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
still the weakest moment of the show by a country mile. but no big deal in retrospect.

after last night, i was wondering if BB would be very rewatchable. I was thinking it wouldn't. But now 12+ hours later and I'm thinking a rewatch a year or two from now is gonna be sweet.
I rewatched the first three seasons again before s4 aired and it was great.

Will rewatch again whole thing in a couple years for sure.
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09-30-2013 , 02:35 PM
mainly what piqued my interest was seeing some jifs and clips today of earlier seasons and seeing how different the characters were, mainly walt and jesse. It's crazy how much the show changed in 5 short seasons.

I read some reviews today. I normally avoid them. Some fair criticisms regarding everything wrapping up too nicely and adding to walt's legend, but whatever. I liked it.

Greenwald had an excellent point about jesse. I too thought it would have been nice to either see more exchange between jesse and walt or have more jesse closure in general after this ep, but it seemed impossible. Too many question marks for Jesse's immediate future (I personally believe he'll be involved in the investigation of the whole nazi massacre). But Greenwald pointed out that Jesse's marginalization was never more clear, and so in that sense the limited scope he received in the finale makes sense.
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09-30-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by darO
If you compare BB to The Wire season to season I got:

S1 BB > The Wire
S2 BB < The Wire
S3 BB > The Wire
S4 BB < The Wire
S5 BB in a massive blowout
I have The Wire > BB in 1-4 but obv BB in 5 by a wide margin.

I agree there's a recency bias with BB. It's just the right show at the right time with regards to popularity.

I can't name a role in Wire that I ever flipped my opinion on from loving to hating whereas in BB the only characters I didn't waver on from start to finish were Gus and Walt. That isn't to say it made it unpleasant, just an observation.
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09-30-2013 , 02:47 PM
Breaking bad was considered one of the best shows ever when 2millon people watched it.

Recency bias just a lame argument people use. It's not like this happens every year there are like 3-4 shows that have gotten talked about at that level and breaking bad is obviously one of them.

It's fine if you think the wire is way better. But people are going to be saying the same stuff about BB in 5 years like they still do about the wire now, sopranos, etc.
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09-30-2013 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise 60
Saw a couple complaints that the ending was a bit too neat and happy.

I understand the concern there but I think they earned it and think it was the right way to end the show. The past couple episodes were just so brutal to watch and tough on the audience and characters that it allowed them to end on a goodish note (for bb at least) compared to another hour of mass torture, while still staying true to the moral compass of the show. They managed to fully punish everyone involved for their "sins" and still leave you happy at the end after you see the show end and the main character die. Very difficult tightrope to pull all of that off and think it was pretty close to perfect.

Also saw a review where they said that it was almost like ozymandous was the true end of Walter white's story and the last two episodes were kind of like epilogues. Which I found interesting.
Ya, I didn't really want a redemption ending, but I think the way they did it worked, and I agree with the epilogue type feel of the past 2 episodes. Perhaps another hour of Ozymandias-like terror was the ending Walt deserved. VG did mention that an ending where Walt is the only survivor and everyone else around him is dead was something they kicked around. But ultimately, they thought that sorta ending would be "a kick in the teeth" to the audience I think is how VG put it.

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Originally Posted by nath
Maybe it's in part because Season 3 was the first season I watched live, but man, I was shocked at the speed of their pacing. We meet the cousins in episode one, and by episode two they were already in Walt's house. The season was initially planned with those two as the main villains, but the plot demanded they be knocked off halfway through to reveal Gus as the mastermind, and to the writer's credit, they didn't screw around and kill time to stretch out the plot and make that happen.

"Sunset", "One Minute", "Half Measures", and "Full Measure" were four of the most tense episodes of TV I'd ever seen.
100% this.

It's always hard for me to rank seasons but I think I got it like

5b=3>>4>5a>2>1

Ranking episodes even tougher. I think "Felina" was a very good ending for the show but not really a top episode on its own.

"One Minute", "Half Measures", "Full Measures", "Crawl Space" and "Ozymandias" are prob the tops imo.
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09-30-2013 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Greenwald had an excellent point
does not compute
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09-30-2013 , 02:49 PM
How could you not love Saul and Mike all the way through?

Or Hank???

@gbebe
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09-30-2013 , 02:50 PM
I love how people want to argue with each other as to why they should like a show. People have different tastes, like everything else in the world. Easier to just accept it.

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Good finale, never really got into the show like most have done but thoroughly enjoyed it nonetheless

Anyone else think they crammed too much into the last episode or was that the plan?
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09-30-2013 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Greenwald had an excellent point about jesse. I too thought it would have been nice to either see more exchange between jesse and walt or have more jesse closure in general after this ep, but it seemed impossible. Too many question marks for Jesse's immediate future (I personally believe he'll be involved in the investigation of the whole nazi massacre). But Greenwald pointed out that Jesse's marginalization was never more clear, and so in that sense the limited scope he received in the finale makes sense.
Jesse's immediate future has no chance of ending positively

The tapes are still intact for all we know and have no impact on convicting a now dead Walt, its a full confession of what he was complicit in, and the only 2 agents who knew of his cooperation are dead. Jesse can't go to the vacuum cleaner, has no money, has no chance of hiding from legal pursuit, and has no leverage on anyone meaningful to make a deal

And that all ignores his eventually shattered mental state once the elation of escaping wears off
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09-30-2013 , 02:54 PM
So you think the nazis kept the best evidence implicating them with multiple murders? The video they stole from the dead DEA agents house?
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09-30-2013 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
does not compute
inorite. I've never read his stuff, but i've always found him pretty blah on the bs report.
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