Only v/v scenario I can think of is if Noze is actually even-angel, but is told he's every night.

Except that this is exactly how wolves play 4-5 days into a game. In every single game. Atak, back me up on this.

That's assuming everyone plays optimally. In practice, wolves are often low profile even when that's pretty much a death sentence.

this is a claim that can be confirmed by lynching obviously

Nah man.

Wolves gonan wolf no matter what. You still hit the utrs with a decent amount of success this late.

Hold'em is ~lock wolf

All players in the game:

aspoker
atak
chilltown
etats
fanmail
g-bebe
geddy
goofy
hold'em
itsraingmen
lin
mjw
nofear
noze
schu
slighted
steroid boy
sylar
tjay
vix
zdye


Removing goofy, nofear for being seer peeked/mechanically clear
Removing etats, fanmail, g-bebe, hold'em, noze, slighted, steroid boy for either having hard claimed something or being the peeks of someone that's hard claimed something
Removing IRM and vix because they obviously should not be killed right now
Removing atak cause obv using his power on himself is stupid

That leaves:

aspoker
chilltown
geddy
lin
mjw
schu
sylar
tjay
zdye


This is the entire list of people we can reasonably kill overnight, less than half the people in the game, and you can still prob make cases to remove some more names off this list.

See cross posting. It doesn't make them wolves for sure, but this would be totally normal wolf play.

Sorry I meant to say that I don't think my angel works 100% of the time (can't talk about why), but given who I've used it on so far that it's fairly reliable.

OK, thanks for the reply. starting to lean more villa on you

every wolf that has been killed with the exception of whitegoose and BJ have been semi-active. in the case of whitegoose and BJ, that was very early in the game

Also, my 2c before you guys kill me, in a mishmash game with the wolves getting crushed, the last remaining wolf or SK or whatever is almost always going to claim some kind of role because they need cover. It's far too suspicious for them to not claim anything this late, imo.

At least I'm not going to make up some garbage claim to save myself pointlessly, because that'd be infinitely worse than what's about to happen.

This is retarded. If hold'em flips villa noze still has a good defense tomorrow, it's nowhere near a lock that this is w/v (or that we can even lynch the wolf it is)

Uh...why?

Why is he getting bussed exactly? Cause Noze claimed?

actually, BJ was fairly active too