I'll keep this one on hold until equities explode.

Who could have possiblly foreseen that Netflix isn't a $54 billion company?

The federal contracting industry has been shrinking for years under Obama. Seems to indicate spending isn't out of control.

The 3D printing of guns is a real thing by the way, and will improve exponentially in the near future. What is the solution for that?

Cross that bridge if it ever becomes a problem.

I don't think it's superficial. I think even if the first actual "change" is superficial it's still an important step towards making the real changes. I'm fully in favor to practical solutions that will make a difference. I don't recognize it as an either or situation.

I don't believe people should have the right to own a firearm and I want it removed. Nothing I have posted would suggest I want it to be done without due process. The illegality of certain types of guns does not infringe on people's 2nd amendment rights. We already have certain states making these distinctions and there's no reason it can't happen on a federal level even while the 2nd amendment is still in tact.

Arguing against anything but a panacea is the trolling that the moderator implied he didn't want for this thread. That's the Anarchy thread, folks.

The problem is that you believe their rhetoric and are ignoring and overwhelming pile of evidence of "conservative" candidates spending an obscene amount of money. The difference between libs and cons isn't coming from the spending, it's only coming on who they want to take the money from and what they're spending it on.

It instantly becomes a problem with prohibition, I'm not sure how that isn't clear. It's arguably already a problem if your goal is to stop bad people from doing bad things.

no crimes have ever been committed with a 3-d printed gun. 3-d printed guns are extremely crappy and break after a few shots. It's a completely made up problem.

OMG WHAT IF SOMEONE MAKES A GUN ON THEIR 9 AXIS CNC MACHINE. Better not have any gun control at all imo!

WILL INSTANTLY BE A PROBLEM!!!



uhhhhhh ok budday

I can grow pot at home ergo legalize it

And the 3-d printer that made that POS gun's price? $34,000.

CRITICAL FLAW IN GUN CONTROL GUISE

yeah but that'll change, my parents' first VCR cost $400 in the early 80s and the remote was connected with a wire

So then you could make an extremely crappy gun for less than mid five figures. Sounds like a real crisis.

But this 3-D printer argument is sooooooooo dumb because even under very stringent gun control bolt action rifles and break action shotguns will always be legal. And a cut down double barrel break action shotgun will always always always be more lethal than some stupid 3-d printed plastic gun. It's completely irrelevant.

The goal isn't to stop it. It's to decrease the frequency and magnitude of which it happens.

You can print AR-15's for low 4 figures, but continue to scoff at this notion of technology and demand working faster than the government can stop things.

It's akin to saying "Yeah you could make real crappy liquor! Hahaha! That's so dumb, alcohol being available after this law is passed? LOL"

A law isn't going to change american's desire for guns, especially criminals. It would be nice to press a button and make all guns in the entire world disappear, but that's not reality.

What is your point?

OK, I will continue to scoff at you. Done.

The perfect is always the enemy of the good

I agree with this entirely. And even so, see so little downside to banning guns that it seems insane to me to not take a chance and do it.

And making home made AR-15 lower receivers is hardly a new phenomenon. People have been doing it forever. You don't need a CNC machine, all you need is a drill press ffs. This doesn't mean gun control isn't worthwhile.

It does mean gun control is superficial at stopping what you want to stop though, and there are much better measures and causes to get behind that actually will make a significant difference if your goal is to reduce gun violence and gun death.

What causes?

Also, I think you're underestimating the amount of causes I can get behind. Pretty easy to post "end the drug war" and "ban guns" on fb twice in the same week.

Then why aren't 3-D printed guns and homemade AR-15s all over Europe and Australia and other places with strict gun control? This sort of activity has always been a fringe behavior and until that changes it's stupid to worry about. It is just a distraction that opponents of serious gun control concern troll with.