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08-12-2017 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BluffMyNuts
I don't like either side, if gun to my head I had to join either one it wouldn't be the Nazi/Alt Right/White Supremacist side.
Yeah that still isnt good enough dude. It really reflects poorly on you that its that close of a decision for you. I can kinda get some of the reasons why. Biases are hard to overcome.

But it does truly make me think less of you as someone ive enjoyed interacting with and gotten friendly with over the last few years.

Its just a stunning lack of awareness about whats going on.
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08-12-2017 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Eddy,

Also your post really trivializes what the first amendment is and represents.

Tut,

But our tears taste so good.


Things have changed from the time the Constitution was written until now. If this was 1875 and this group was promoting white supremacy, who would care? Like 38 people might get upset.

In 2017, millions of people can be triggered by a group of 14 people who want to get into arts and crafts and go stand outside with a sign. That's a problem.
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08-12-2017 , 09:57 PM
I don't even know what you're saying.
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08-12-2017 , 09:57 PM
Hmm...

One side says that black people fundamentally shouldn't have a right to exist...

One side organizes to protest the first side in loud and provocative ways that sometimes turn violent.

Which is worse...

I...

CANT...

DECIDE...
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08-12-2017 , 09:58 PM
Tut, I think you're misreading this. I would under no circumstances back the Alt Right side and I am fully aware of the disaster that is Trump.
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08-12-2017 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SirOsis
He does look a bit like a man of constant sorrow.
👍
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08-12-2017 , 10:00 PM
Eddy: like 38% of the country are literally nazis - what's the big deal!?
#KevinJamesGOAT
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08-12-2017 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BluffMyNuts
Tut, I think you're misreading this. I would under no circumstances back the Alt Right side and I am fully aware of the disaster that is Trump.
Well then you can probably save the "both extremes are equally bad" take.
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08-12-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
I don't even know what you're saying.


I'm saying the KKK or white nationalists should not be allowed to assemble. They aren't exercising their right to free speech, they are inciting a riot. In the 24 hour news cycle, with social media, it's even more dangerous than ever to even allow this.
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08-12-2017 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
Things have changed from the time the Constitution was written until now. If this was 1875 and this group was promoting white supremacy, who would care? Like 38 people might get upset.

In 2017, millions of people can be triggered by a group of 14 people who want to get into arts and crafts and go stand outside with a sign. That's a problem.


Eddy, it's a problem because Donald Trump ran a campaign that was quite explicit in its backing of White Supremacist Ideology. He got 48% of the popular vote to be the damn President, supporting that ideology.

If 14 people went to Charlottesville and held up signs explicitly supporting raping children, I'd shrug it off because they're provocateurs who don't have much support (outside Central Pennsylvania of course).

This is worrying to me because I believe there is plenty of support for the side of the White Supremacists in this matter, whether they say it or not. This is something that anybody with a conscience and good morals should be denouncing in the strongest possible terms and not just handwaving away.
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08-12-2017 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
I'm saying the KKK or white nationalists should not be allowed to assemble. They aren't exercising their right to free speech, they are inciting a riot. In the 24 hour news cycle, with social media, it's even more dangerous than ever to even allow this.
Which viewpoints are allowed to assemble?
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08-12-2017 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Which viewpoints are allowed to assemble?


They should be allowed to assemble, just not while carrying torches and rifles.
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08-12-2017 , 10:14 PM
BMN,

I don't care if you're offended. You're a dumb piece of ****. The end. Props to Woody for at least admitting the "they both suck" nonsense is indeed nonsense. You, on the other hand, are an irredeemable POS.
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08-12-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Which viewpoints are allowed to assemble?


So you think it's a slippery slope?
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08-12-2017 , 10:15 PM
That's a good idea Zim but you know as soon as you tell them they can't exercise their 2nd amendment rights they'll accuse the government of making them sitting ducks.
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08-12-2017 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
BMN,

I don't care if you're offended. You're a dumb piece of ****. The end. Props to Woody for at least admitting the "they both suck" nonsense is indeed nonsense. You, on the other hand, are an irredeemable POS.
Lol thanks bud. Hope you're doing well. Even though you didn't say no offense I'm not offended by your freedom of speech.
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08-12-2017 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
They should be allowed to assemble, just not while carrying torches and rifles.

Torches are probably cool ultimately, but yeah, assembling while armed, regardless of group, is probably reasonable.

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Originally Posted by EddyB66
So you think it's a slippery slope?
Basically, yeah. The problem isn't that we allow Nazis to march, that's a strength. We have to be able to tolerate speech we find detestable.

We can't let protests turn violent, and a good start might be not allowing to people to march while armed to the teeth and regulating march routes more heavily.
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08-12-2017 , 10:23 PM
whens the last time a civil war in any country resulted in a positive outcome?


i think immersive vr is the answer. get these guys permanently preoccupied. #PreoccupyMainSt
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08-12-2017 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by -Insert Witty SN-
whens the last time a civil war in any country resulted in a positive outcome?


i think immersive vr is the answer. get these guys permanently preoccupied. #PreoccupyMainSt
USA the b GOAT at civil warrin
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08-12-2017 , 10:38 PM
The antifa, blm and demsoc platform is like black people shouldn't be killed by police, nazis are bad, single payer and a living wage.

Nazis are uh...nazis.

Apparently both of these should be wiped out.
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08-12-2017 , 10:44 PM
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08-12-2017 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
The antifa, blm and demsoc platform is like black people shouldn't be killed by police, nazis are bad, single payer and a living wage.

Nazis are uh...nazis.

Apparently both of these should be wiped out.
ya but totally reasonable non-white supremacists be like

"on many sides. on many sides."
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08-12-2017 , 10:46 PM
pick a ****ing side you cowards
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08-12-2017 , 11:22 PM
EddyB's protest does nothing take might be his hottest yet. Like, how obtuse can one man be?

Eddy, minorities couldn't attend white schools or use white bathrooms in a lot of places in America like just 60-70ish years ago. Then this big protest called the Civil Rights Movement happened. Hope this helps.
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08-12-2017 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
They should be allowed to assemble, just not while carrying torches and rifles.


Meh I mean I'm not even sure I agree with this anymore honestly as far as assembling publicly is concerned.

Like a group of known pedophiles or known serial killers shouldn't be allowed to assemble in public if it was somehow possible - and there's at least somewhat of a direct parallel between all 3 with regards to being absolute abhorrent, subhuman views/groups that are objectively damaging to the advancement of humankind. For a more direct parallel, a group marching down the street with ISIS flags and guns wouldn't fly at all I'm assuming. ISIS is a terrorist group, just like Nazis are and the Confederacy was.

It's a slippery slope in this regard for sure tho.

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