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Trump is both literally and figuratively ham-handed

Yeah well assuming you're not being disingenuous about being offended in the first place (let's call that the benefit of the doubt), that still leaves you implying that Schu actually *called you* the term when he did not. You already saw one poster (heh) take what you said to mean he'd called you that and we all know you law-talking-guys don't accidentally post that "at least Tut never called me a ___________." if you're not trying to throw shade.

You are of course allowed to be offended but you are expected to make sense and I am allowed to be incredulous at you taking offense *while actually arguing against taking "carpet bomb the muslims"* as a racist take plus your admitted racist/bigoted takes. I mean, you're a well known troll and I suspect if we put up a poll itt "He's really offended" would finish a distant second to either "He creams his pants whenever he gets to call liberals racist" or "He's delighting in getting the liberals into a shame-circle of calling each other racist and apologizing to him for it".

few reasons. first the only real alternative is labour, and they are also promising brexit. perhaps labour would've put itself in a position to win if they'd have said '**** that referendum result, we are the remain party' but they didn't. note that both may and corbyn supported remain but have pledged to 'respect the result'

second, while corbyn is extremely popular among labour party members he is extremely unpopular with the wider electorate. this is problem. plus some of his policies are perhaps a bit left for mr joe average to swallow. also most of his own MPs are blairite/clintonite types and they hate corbyn (and arent shy about telling everyone) so its a bit of a shambles. imagine if bernie had won the nomination and piles of dem senators & representatives kept telling the press that he's a liability and his policies are crap. that's the situation corbyn finds himself in

third, the strong ukip vote of last time (which was made up of both former conservative and labour voters) looks like its being absorbed almost exclusively by the conservatives. seems that ukippers trust the tories more than labour on the issue of brexit

the only option for single issue remain supporters is to vote lib dem, which most people see as a waste of a vote

(btw im not sure that another exit referendum would go the other way. i saw a couple polls immediately after it happened which suggested so, but who knows what would happen now)

Corbyn's policies are actually really popular but people ****ing hate Corbyn the person.

I mostly don't blame them since he makes a fool of himself regularly (see: wage ceiling debacle, EU immigration debate).

But May going super sayjin scares the **** out of me. I wish the Lib Dems and Labour would just **** already and be a reasonable couple for a while. Don't even care that it would be an ugly divorce at some point.

Why did she call an election? I heard it was to get a stronger mandate, but then I heard it was to distract people from a scandal (the expenses scandal, or was there a different one before this?). Which candidate's emails will Russia be leaking?

To be honest it is most likely just for strategic reasons. Tories are looking to get even firmer in the lead than Thatcher ever was.

three possible reasons that have merit imo:

1) b/c labour are in a bit of a crisis right now and she can probably take a load of seats from them

2) b/c the election was originally scheduled for 2020, ie very soon after brexit. high chance that this will be a period of economic and political chaos. awful timing for an incumbent to have to go through an election since the ruling party ultimately gets the blame for everything

3) b/c having the next election in 2020 would present EU negotiators with a lot of leverage. they could theoretically sandbag negotiations knowing that the tories would get blamed by the british electorate for mucking it up, which could push may into giving ground for selfish political reasons. not a situation she wants to find herself in

the expenses scandal you mentioned is only really a big deal among liberal activists imo. it was announced a couple days ago that the investigation is over and charges wont be pressed

i reckon russia would prefer a labour victory (corbyn has appeared on Russia Today a few times and is very anti USA), so expect conservative emails to be leaked. otoh some of the tory MPs might be bulletproof on this b/c many of them are v old and crusty and i expect they still rely on the written word or, at a push, fax machines

my guess is it's mostly consideration 1)

Florida Man can neither be stopped nor contained

but possibly de-tained

man this is a savage SHAT

Baids - what are the rules around calling an election. It seems crazy to me that the incumbent can dictate when to have elections.

it used to be that the ruling party could call it whenever they liked (maximum of 5 years)

and then the tories changed the rule by passing the fixed term parliament act in 2011. this stipulates that each parliament lasts a fixed term of 5 years unless a 'lets have an election' resolution passes (requiring 2/3 of the vote), or a vote of no confidence in the govt is passed (requires a simple majority)

so basically it took the tories a cpl years to break their own rule. we are 2 years into the current parliament. they tabled a motion of the 2/3 required flavour a couple weeks ago and it passed 522 vs 13

an aside: a lot of labour mps didnt really want to have an election cos a bunch of them are probably going to lose their jobs, but you cant really talk about how this govt is crushing the poor and destroying our country and then vote nah when presented with a chance to get them out of office

This is borderline Florida Man material. Needs a twist - like he's arrested while having sex with his car's tailpipe.

Florida Man Crashes Into Fire Hydrant and Drowns

That's why you and dkgo are still here

10. Your entire ****ing life is seething resentment that Momma's Special Boy still gets laughed at.

And you're, at the end of the day, simply not smart enough to be liberal. It's legitimately a tough break and I understand how an inferior intellect such as yourself would fall in with the alt-right, but that still has to be incredibly grating.

To know that the educated talk ABOUT you instead of TO you because you're a ****ing Trump voter, prima facie unworthy of the most basic respect. Like I said, tough break.

Don't bring me into your stupid quibbles.

Racist.

Btw fly I am really digging the Assassination of Jesse James. Please list your other most underrated movies of the last 25 years.

You ****ing wheathead

Cornpone!

That was like 5 hours right?

i've crafted a helpful guide for americans (or politically unaware brits) who might wonder which way they would vote in uk politics

It's 2.5 - and I don't get the ending at all.



The imagery is incredible. I grew up right down the road from Frank James' grave in Hill Park in Independence Mo. Spent a lot of time hunting in rural Mo and Ks with my stepdad as a kid. They really captured the essence of the rural midwest.

The best thing to come out of Assassination of Jesse James was this