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03-02-2017 , 01:19 AM
I also love that now he pivots to saying the discussions weren't about the campaign when he told the committee that he didn't meet with them at all.
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03-02-2017 , 01:27 AM
Oh I've got so much popcorn ready for this
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03-02-2017 , 01:36 AM
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Oh I've got so much popcorn ready for this
well, you will be disappointed.

I mean, you realize that the guy who is supposed to investigate sessions is sessions himself? ya, dont think this is going very far.
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03-02-2017 , 01:41 AM
He already didn't recuse himself from voting to confirm himself lol he ain't recusing.
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03-02-2017 , 01:49 AM
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God bless you
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03-02-2017 , 01:49 AM
Just chit chatin' with the Russians. No biggie.
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03-02-2017 , 08:05 AM
How was i to know
They were with the Russians too
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03-02-2017 , 10:08 AM
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He already didn't recuse himself from voting to confirm himself lol he ain't recusing.
When even Jason Chaffetz says you should recuse yourself ...

Chris Christie must be frothing at the mouth for a non-food related reason for the first time in months.

The GOP response to this so far from what I've heard includes "this didn't cause you to lose the election / sour grapes / yada yada". No you idiots, whether this swung the election is irrelevant. Completely and utterly irrelevant.
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03-02-2017 , 10:08 AM
Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but if a discussion (about any topic even if it was something completely irrelevant) happened then didn't he lie under oath by saying that he hadn't had any contact with them? Like he could have had a perfectly legal conversation, but once he lies under oath during his confirmation hearing that's a pretty big issue. And if his conversation, provided it did happen (and I'm guessing the media has this one right), did happen and was legal he could have just admitted that it happened and explained what it was about.
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03-02-2017 , 10:17 AM
That is correct.

The explanation that he spoke with the Russians in a different capacity is exactly the kind of lying I am entirely fed up with in my career. His defense is essentially that if you had asked him the question more narrowly, about specifically that capacity, rather than more broadly as they did, well then of course he would have taken his obligation to testify truthfully seriously and disclosed the information. But he wasn't asked, you see. Gotcha!

Even though he was specifically asked in a general way in order to require disclosure. It's perjury.
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03-02-2017 , 10:26 AM
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That is correct.

The explanation that he spoke with the Russians in a different capacity is exactly the kind of lying I am entirely fed up with in my career. His defense is essentially that if you had asked him the question more narrowly, about specifically that capacity, rather than more broadly as they did, well then of course he would have taken his obligation to testify truthfully seriously and disclosed the information. But he wasn't asked, you see. Gotcha!

Even though he was specifically asked in a general way in order to require disclosure. It's perjury.
Ok, this is what I thought, but wasn't as on top of this as I am on some stories so wanted to make sure. I think its pretty obvious that he isn't fit for the job, especially given that his role is the ****ing AG.

I'm not sure it will result in anything, but its ****ing ridiculous that they all ****ing interacted with Russia and then lied about it.

The one thing that has me hopeful is some speculation that Trump will be very upset about this ruining his good news cycle from the speech and being talked about instead of more praise for him.
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03-02-2017 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
That is correct.

The explanation that he spoke with the Russians in a different capacity is exactly the kind of lying I am entirely fed up with in my career. His defense is essentially that if you had asked him the question more narrowly, about specifically that capacity, rather than more broadly as they did, well then of course he would have taken his obligation to testify truthfully seriously and disclosed the information. But he wasn't asked, you see. Gotcha!

Even though he was specifically asked in a general way in order to require disclosure. It's perjury.
I feel like if he gets kicked out they'll just make him Chief Justice of Alabama. Probably still better...grumble, mumble...
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03-02-2017 , 10:47 AM
Keep in mind in addition to the general perjury statute for lying under oath there's a separate "false statements to Congress" crime that to my eyes appears easier to prove.
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03-02-2017 , 12:15 PM
I'm not sure anything can better sum up drumpf than his attorney general of all people being convicted of perjury
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03-02-2017 , 12:39 PM
Well convicting him of anything requires a prosecutor. Good luck with that.
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03-02-2017 , 01:06 PM
Rubio lost the lease on his office and apparently has to be out by tomorrow and doesn't have another office space lined up.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...135674468.html
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03-02-2017 , 01:36 PM
Pretty sure Canadian conservative candidate Kevin O'Leary's been mentioned here. Kellie Leitch is another leadership hopeful, running on a strong anti-immigrant platform.



Here's her latest campaign video, or if 8 minutes is too much, the highlights follow below.




https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedCanada/s...20709568917506

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03-02-2017 , 01:39 PM
Eliminating grants to clean up brownfield sites would be a pretty solid middle finger to the rust belt by Trump.
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03-02-2017 , 01:41 PM
does canada hate trudeau or something?
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03-02-2017 , 02:02 PM
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Well convicting him of anything requires a prosecutor. Good luck with that.
What are those guys who went after Barry Bonds doing? Feel like this is right up their alley
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03-02-2017 , 02:28 PM
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Just chit chatin' with the Russians. No biggie.
Like Obama on a hot mic saying to the Russians "Wait until after the election bro." I know it's different because reasons
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03-02-2017 , 02:35 PM
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does canada hate trudeau or something?
His popularity keeps dropping but it's on par with other PMs at this stage of their term. One of his big campaign promises was electoral reform and replacing first-past-the-post with something like a single transferable ballot (which matters here since we have 5 national parties and nobody wins a majority of the popular vote and there's lots of strategic voting against candidates vs voting for who you want and splitting the left-of-centre vote) but he decided he wasn't going to bother with that for now, which pissed a lot of people off.
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03-02-2017 , 02:39 PM
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Like Obama on a hot mic saying to the Russians "Wait until after the election bro." I know it's different because reasons
"Bbbbuutttt _________ did it too!" - is always a good sign that something is indefensible.
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03-02-2017 , 02:42 PM
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Like Obama on a hot mic saying to the Russians "Wait until after the election bro." I know it's different because reasons
Hey are you still getting cucked by your wife or did you finally kick her to the curb like literally everyone on 2+2 suggested?
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03-02-2017 , 02:43 PM
Dude.
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