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02-16-2017 , 08:10 PM
Why is Erin interviewing Hank Schrader?
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02-16-2017 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
The term racist is a very strong loosely thrown around word. Do I think Trump is a racist? No. Anti-Semite? No. Do I think he is a socially unaware *******? Yes. He's definitely an *******, and his self defense mechanism is probably to call you names that will hurt you.
You must not think many people are racists then. LOL at him claiming to be the least racist/least anti-semitic person "you've ever seen."

It's not uncommon for many people his age to be racist. One set of my grandparents were/are pretty damn racist.

Pretty sure he paid off a group for not renting to black people in the 70s where he settled. He's also lacking diversity in his cabinet. He never stopped with the Obama isn't from the US claims as well.
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02-16-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by capone0
You must not think many people are racists then. LOL at him claiming to be the least racist/least anti-semitic person "you've ever seen."

It's not uncommon for many people his age to be racist. One set of my grandparents were/are pretty damn racist.

Pretty sure he paid off a group for not renting to black people in the 70s where he settled. He's also lacking diversity in his cabinet. He never stopped with the Obama isn't from the US claims as well.
But he had REASONS to do all of that! REASONSSSSSSSS
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02-16-2017 , 08:20 PM
Eddy, is Trump the "least racist person you've ever met?" Excuse the word met since you likely haven't met him, but is he less racist than everyone you have ever interacted with?

If not then what has he done that makes him more racist than the least racist person you've interacted with and why is it ok for him to lie and claim he is?
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02-16-2017 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by #Thinman
harwood: "lol, naw, im good dawg...."
hard not to read a lot into this, but I suspect it would be a massive pay cut for him (he works for Lockheed)

That said, there are reports that his main concern was not being allowed to put together his own staff. Apparently KT McFarland was asked by Trump to stay on as Deputy (cliffs: she's a dumbass)
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02-16-2017 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
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also solid:


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02-16-2017 , 08:31 PM
Sen. James Lankford (R, who cares): "There are some very sharp and talented cabinet officers in Trump's administration"
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02-16-2017 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
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You know what uranium is, right? This thing called nuclear weapons like lots of things are done with uranium including some bad things.
these are words that were uttered by the president of the united states
And some, I assume, are good uraniums.
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02-16-2017 , 08:47 PM
So now I see they are reporting that border officials are pushing for building a (more) fence instead of a wall, like an 18' high fence. No one ever believed they would actually build a wall all along the border, it's ridiculous, ask MEb. I can already see this exchange now:

"Mr. President, we have now seen that the plans are to build a fence instead of a wall. Can you explain the decision to abandon the promise to build a wall on the border?"

"It's not a fence, OK? Did you grow up with a backyard? Yes? Yes? I know I did, and there, let's just talk about this here before you report this in a fake way. Does your old backyard fence look like what we're building on the border? I don't think so, I don't think so. What fence is that strong and that tall? It is a wall, it's a wall, it's a wall, it's a wall."
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02-16-2017 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
Huh? I'd rather deport some Americans I know.
If you support Trump you support deporting Dreamers. He's doing it right now.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...216-story.html

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But senior Trump aides are holding fast to their goal of strengthening immigration enforcement, the president’s chief campaign promise. They have examined at least two options that would not directly involve Trump, according to two immigration policy advisors to the White House: a lawsuit brought by states, and new legal guidance that details who is a priority for deportation.

Trump is showing a reluctance to take responsibility for White House chaos
Under that option, Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions, a vocal critic of deportation relief as a senator, would direct Department of Justice lawyers to review the program, which issues two-year work permits to people who qualify and keeps them from being categorized as deportation priorities.

If the Justice Department determines that DACA is not legal or is no longer a responsible use of prosecutorial discretion, the Department of Homeland Security would be instructed to stop awarding and renewing work permits.

Another possible path involves the courts. A handful of governors are considering a challenge patterned on the 2014 lawsuit filed by several conservative state officials against the Obama administration’s expansion of deportation protections. If they sue, Sessions could instruct his lawyers not to defend the program in court, exposing it to indefinite suspension by a federal judge.

Deportation relief could also be ended “the same way it was begun,” said Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state and the architect of multiple state and local laws aimed at immigrants in the U.S. illegally. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly could simply instruct U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to stop issuing work permits, much as Obama’s first secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, created DACA with a memo in 2012.
Kris Kobach is just a peach.
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02-16-2017 , 09:44 PM
So legit sad because it's just a scapegoat. I've worked hand in hand with illegals in multiple industries, they're usually funny af.

Would definitely commingle with those folks over any other random demo.
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02-16-2017 , 09:57 PM
It's so obvious that keeping them undocumented is a feature for monied interests, not a bug

It's disgusting how little that gets talked about

Scapegoating gets talked about some, but what gets talked about almost never is that it's a strategy to suppress labor. It's valuable to have a large number of workers with no rights and no recourse. Free agency is suppressed and bargaining power is suppressed.
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02-16-2017 , 09:58 PM
If they jaywalked they're the same as any other criminal in these people's eyes, they need to prepare as best as they can they'll get deported. Sad times.
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02-16-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
If they jaywalked they're the same as any other criminal in these people's eyes, even the dreamers need to prepare as best as they can they'll get deported. Sad times.
If they are domestically abused or otherwise a victim of a crime, they are the same as any criminal in these people's eyes. This has already begun happening again now that Trump is in power.

Even in sanctuary cities like El Paso that are happy to be binational and happy about their high level of safety and elected leaders and representatives who don't want to criminalize the victims of crimes.

Don't report a theft, don't get a restraining order against your abuser. Because ICE will use that blip on the radar to get you. You have no rights.
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02-16-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Tennessee man who plotted New York mosque attack won’t face terrorism charges


A Tennessee man won't face terrorism charges for plotting an attack against an upstate New York mosque — and attorneys claim it's because federal terrorism statutes almost exclusively focus on foreign extremists.

Robert Doggart was arrested in April 2015 after authorities discovered that he had been trying to recruit people to burn down a mosque in "Islamberg," a self-named, predominantly Muslim community near Hancock, according to court records.

Doggart, 65, who ran for Congress as an Independent in 2014, allegedly went on right-wing online forums and openly talked about using AR-15 assault rifles to attack Muslims because he believed the small upstate community was an extremist training camp, records show. Authorities intercepted Doggart's alleged plot before anyone was hurt.

He's facing one count of solicitation to commit arson, one count of solicitation to commit a civil rights violation and two counts of threat in interstate commerce. But he's not facing any terrorism charges and has been on house arrest since his initial capture.

Attorneys representing the Islamberg community in a seperate civil lawsuit claim a loophole in federal law allows defendants such as Doggart to escape terrorism charges.

"There's a gap in the law," attorney Tahirah Amatul-Wadud told the Daily News on Monday evening. "Frankly, there is nothing on terrorism unless it's connected to a foreign element. You won't see the KKK charged with domestic terror even though that's what they do."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2971801


the system works!
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02-16-2017 , 10:16 PM
Eddy, here is a good article that may help you understand what's going on: why-liberals-are-wrong-about-trump
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02-16-2017 , 10:21 PM
Kushner's already met with TWX execs about CNN's reporting. They do not waste time on any front they're attacking, that's for sure.
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02-16-2017 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
Eddy, here is a good article that may help you understand what's going on: why-liberals-are-wrong-about-trump
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02-17-2017 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by niss
He's confused, not sure which of his ~ 11 accounts he can still post on.

Anyway, even Shepard Smith had a take today:
Seeing it is kinda cool. Shep is surrounded by it every day, it's a little hard to watch:

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02-17-2017 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Trump: (standard lie about largest electoral college victory since Reagan)

Reporter: well Obama had more

Trump: I meant republican president

Reporter: well GHW had more

Trump: I don't know, this is just told to me

Reporter: so why should we trust you?

Eddy: response as to why this isn't as bad as it looks

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02-17-2017 , 12:47 AM
Just had someone who I would otherwise consider intelligent spout off a bunch of BS to me about Trump. Actually met him through 2p2 and he's a solid grinder and CPA. Telling me how Trump crushed his press conference and is killing the liberal idiocracy. And he's not lying just getting bad info and he talks a lot. I JUST CAN'T.
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02-17-2017 , 01:00 AM
There is part of me that wonders if some of the things he says aren't him lying but just him being such a ****ing uniformed idiot

Like the record electoral vote thing. It's completely plausible he actually didn't know that any, much less every election since Reagan besides dubya/gore and dubya/kerry was a larger win
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02-17-2017 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Henrik Sedin
also solid:


lol nice.

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Just had someone who I would otherwise consider intelligent spout off a bunch of BS to me about Trump. Actually met him through 2p2 and he's a solid grinder and CPA. Telling me how Trump crushed his press conference and is killing the liberal idiocracy. And he's not lying just getting bad info and he talks a lot. I JUST CAN'T.
Approval rating will rise after this **** show. STRONG president giving it to the evil lib media. Said he didn't know anyone who had been in contact with Russia. CASE CLOSED.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/opinio...any/index.html

Just mind boggling
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02-17-2017 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by feedthabeast
Just had someone who I would otherwise consider intelligent spout off a bunch of BS to me about Trump. Actually met him through 2p2 and he's a solid grinder and CPA. Telling me how Trump crushed his press conference and is killing the liberal idiocracy. And he's not lying just getting bad info and he talks a lot. I JUST CAN'T.
I'll be curious to see if he repeats the "largest electoral college win since Reagan" lie again after today's in-conference debunking vs. "Well, that's what I was told" shtick.
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02-17-2017 , 01:05 AM
And he surrounds himself with people who would say that to him about Republicans since Reagan while just completely spacing on older Bush
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