Oh no, no more career politicians

Don't think he would have to.

Great job, that's exactly what was being lamented

You're the best

oh ok so I didnt. so you are attributing arguments and opinions to me that I never said or even hinted.

so ya cool.

dont do that.

its called a strawman.

If he has to, sure. He's not insane. George W Bush gave up control of the Rangers.

It's only Donny that doesn't see how there's a conflict of interest.

I think the only thing this whole experiment has confirmed is that every member of congress should have a term limit of exactly 1

Ryan now talking about how the leaks should be investigated. Not the president who may be in league with an enemy of the state but the people blowing the whistle on that. This is insanity

I've thought this for a long time, at least for the Senate. I think either a single 8/10/12 year term is best with a proportional amount of seats turning over ever 2 years. So it would be 25%/20%/16.67% turnover every 2 years under this system.

As for the House I am a little more flexible. I'm not sure what to do there, but think a maximum time in office of 8-12 years seems quite reasonable too.

6 is the absolute max that any term should run at any level

If you want a longer time allowable, then let them have 2 terms

Don't think term limits are the panacea that many others think, tho

Certainly not, but this is unacceptable

Acting on things in a way that makes you more electable rather than acting for the best of the country and your constituents is a huge issue. What people say they want or vote on and what is best for them are often two very different things.

Also, experience matters and turnover hurts productivity. Not just in government, but in private industry or even personal life as well.

Hardly any downside though.

This

One of the most destructive presidents in American history and potentially an actual honest to god traitor, has the legislative branch serving as enablers lest they lose their jobs instead of a check of his power

This isn't right

Lol at the Congress enacting anything that limits their term length. It makes too much sense but the guys in power are never giving it up.

Not too long ago they voted to gut their own ethics enforcer. Insider trading IS LEGAL FOR CONGRESS. These clowns aren't going to do ****.

I mean, there are clearly downsides to term limits. Inexperience has a cost. Not caring what the electorate thinks of you, while good if you're principled, is dangerous if you're just there to get paid and/or **** **** up, like be spiteful towards other legislators or other branches. Don't like the President? Introduce a new bill to investigate or motion to impeach every day. Who cares if 70% of the electorate loves the President or whatever

This is just me going off the top of my head. Don't take my word for it. There's huge amounts of academic debate literally for centuries, with fair points on each side. "No downside to term limits" is pure reactionary hilarity. Recency bias, too. And I'm probably in favor of some form when the rubber hits the road

The funny thing is I'm pretty sure one of the promises in that ethics list drumpf put out in the last week of the campaign was to force congress to enact term limits

Can someone repost that? I wanna chuckle at the great many things he'll never stick to that he probably will deny ever saying he wanted to do in the first place

So say these investigations into these leaks are a "success." How is the end game not a bunch of career civil servants saying yes I leaked this info and risked my liberty because our President betrayed his country and shame on you for refusing to hold him accountable. You are all a disgrace to your office and to your country.

Is Trump just going to throw them all in Guantanamo or something?

He definitely said "term limits" a lot. Not sure if it was enshrined in some formal promise tho

what uhh do you think prevents politicians from completely deviating from campaign rhetoric when they are actually in office?

because i'm pretty sure it is threat of losing re-election. there is no incentive to do anything constitutents actually want once in office if we have one term people

now if you want to say that doesn't work out in practice than fine, but that is the idea behind it

i just turned on the tv to this trump press conference. he is actually delusional. is this him cracking under pressure in real time? this is cringeworthy.

"reince is doing a phenomenal job" therefore fake news. fake news therefore we can't get things done. if not for fake news we'd be able to get things done. the russia thing is a ruse, the real story is leaks. ---actual paraphrasing of his scattered thoughts within a 5 min rant

'the public sees the bias and the hatred' (of fake news) actual quote

100% no question trump is being blackmailed by the kgb. ok 99.5%.

trump enters/sets up every negotiation taking a hard line stance so he can get a better deal etc etc. (probably the only thing he's semi competent at). except when it comes to russia.


man he's loopy today.

he just said "i dont know, but i believe the [appellate] court has been overturned 80% of the time"

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...trump-coverage