Virginia somehow managed just a week or so ago to fail to repeal its adultery law so that's still a misdemeanor in Virginia.

Sinatra was convicted of seduction.

Didn't Mike Tyson get 2/3 of his rape punishment just for general sodomy (fingers, oral)?

I've gotta say that while I don't like Bernie's political ideas I really respect him as a person and think he has run a very good and extremely admirable campaign to this point. I like how he seems consistent and sticks to his principles while showing genuine disdain and passion.

+1.

Bernie is by far the most likeable person on either side. It's just too bad I strongly disagree with his economic policy. (he does make good points about campaign finance reform though)

The thing is, even if you disagree with his economic philosophies you should still be voting for him. Every other candidate is going to grow government and spend a ton too. He's just going to be spending it on things like Healthcare instead of the military.


If there were an actual fiscal conservative running I could understand the hesitation to the feeling of the Bern, but there simply isn't.

There's also that whole "social issues" thing to.

I'm worried about his tax policy and regulation in the financial industry. I don't care that much either way about healthcare.

What part of his tax policy worries you? Which candidates doesn't worry you?

Bernie sanders isn't growing the government just like every other candidate. He's doing it at a scale that is literally unprecedented in the united states. Furthermore, his trade policies are completely unsupported and would lead to financial ruin.

But yeah, he seems like a nice guy! I should vote for him!

Through what mechanism is he going to do this?

Hoping Hillary openly rigs the NH primary just for the category-5 NEETstorm it would unleash on the internet

the fact that it appears he wants to raise taxes significantly on the middle class and especially the upper middle class. I don't have the same fears out of the Republican party and I also don't think Hillary is likely to go through with any increases near as meaningful as Bernie.

I also worry that increased payroll taxes will stall my wages out and don't think I would see a raise commiserate with my company's healthcare savings if we go to single payer.

Trump is the next president

Citation needed

You shouldn't need a citation for this. This is basic stuff promulgated by sanders that you should know if you're planning on voting for him.

No that's laughable. I would very much like a citation on the significant tax increases to the middle class in Bernie's taxplan.

Laughable that you're informed about the basics of the major economic plan pushed by your candidate???

Anyways:

afaik he hasn't released his exact tax rates, but if you have them handy it would be nice to see. I do know that he feels that people in the $250k-500k/yr range should pay more and I am strongly against that. If you have a few kids and live in a major city you're going to be spending a huge portion of that income on housing, childcare, food, and other basic "necessities." Childcare itself can easily run $1500/month per child in a major city. If you make $360k and pay 50% (federal, state, local, social security, etc.) then you've now got $15k/month. If you have 3 kids you just spent 30% of your budget on childcare and don't even have a house, car, food, clothes, retirement savings, or anything else covered yet.

I want to understand why the pro-business, anti-tax, Republican party of economic growth presides over economies that suck balls compared to the economies of Democratic presidencies. They run bad? Is that the basic thing?

Only complete fools think the president has complete control over economic cycles. Like, if you're giving Clinton credit for the internet boom and Bush blame for the internet bust and subprime mess, then you're not really serious. You're basically a results oriented fish.

(That doesn't even really get into how clinton had a fairly pro free trade and conservative economic policies either).

That's not really what I'm getting at, nor am I making the argument as a causative thing.

On the other hand, Republicans are supposed to be the WE MAKE JOBS AND YOU GET MONEY party. They never are. Why is that.

Because, like molesting a child, there's often a significant time lag before the full symptoms emerge.

well, if you look at the last 24 years, Clinton inherited a cyclical boom and left just as the bubble burst leaving Bush with an economy that was predictably stagnant until 2007 when the housing market faltered and eventually completely collapsed. Obama coming in at the beginning basically had nowhere to go, but up. The economy was poised to recover in 2009 regardless of who ran the country.

I think run bad accounts for most of it recently. The first Bush was a pretty prosperous time though.

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